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Old 04-30-2008, 02:36 PM
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Hmmm....

Just heard on news here that now they have found proof of abuse (broken bones and recently broken yet healed bones in very young children) this is sad!
Wow. Good thing they are reporting this now and using words like "very young" without indicating ages so that the media doesn't start to wonder about the extra one thousand CPS spots that were recently budgeted for but vacant until the Eldorado ranch procurement.

CPS probably doesn't want them to start wondering about the fact that 2 out of 3 children in foster care in Texas were reported to be on psychotrophic drugs either.

Suspected sex abuse among the boys? Brilliant strategy. Divide and conquer. Confuse them long enough and ask the right questions and they are going to be able to implant some memories in these traumatized children.

After all, that is the real reason for separating the kids from the parents, isn't it?
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Old 04-30-2008, 02:41 PM
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I read this report but don't see where there is evidence of abuse. The numbers of children with a history of broken bones given are less than 10% of the total number of children taken. I think you could find the same percentage in any elementary school!

So, what does this mean? They indicate that the children were treated by doctors, but none of them reported suspected abuse. I find that hard to believe if they were truly being abused.
EXACTLY! But Texas authorities know the heat is getting turned up a bit as some pesky issues keep cropping up like "due process" and "kids in intensive care."
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Old 04-30-2008, 04:31 PM
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Anyone remember Waco??????????????? This has the same smell.
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Old 04-30-2008, 04:33 PM
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Anyone remember Waco??????????????? This has the same smell.
No black helicopters, please!
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If Ellis Ruben was alive he loved these cases. What a great attorney when it came to church and state matters.
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On Monday, CPS announced that almost 60 percent of the underage girls living on the Eldorado ranch are pregnant or already have children.
http://www.statesman.com/news/conten...id=inform_artr
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Old 04-30-2008, 04:57 PM
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http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_8927977

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State authorities raided the YFZ Ranch on April 3 after receiving a report from a local family violence shelter that a 16-year-old girl telephoned several times, claiming she had been abused by her "spiritual" husband.
The women from YFZ Ranch said Monday the girl does not exist and the calls were a hoax.
"It is a bogus person. It is a person they made up. That person does not exist on this land," said Joy.
Janet said no one has heard of the girl named in a search warrant. "She is a fictitious person."
Another girl with a name similar to that of the girl in the search warrant was grilled for hours by investigators, Janet said. They kept telling her " 'You are this girl. Why don't you want our help?' " she said.
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Texas official: Evidence of broken bones, possible sexual abuse found in FLDS kids


Salt Lake City attorney Rod Parker accused the department of putting out "misleading information" to malign the polygamous sect.
Parker said some children in the community have brittle bone disease and that Texas Child Protective Services was informed of that.
"That makes some of the children more susceptible to broken bones," Parker said. "The mothers told CPS about that when they were taken in. They've known all along that the reason they might see higher incidence of broken bones was due to this condition. They have no evidence to support the implication it is due to child abuse."
Cockerell shared the information with the Texas Senate Health and Human Services Committee, which met Wednesday morning in Austin.
http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_9106612
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I read this report but don't see where there is evidence of abuse. The numbers of children with a history of broken bones given are less than 10% of the total number of children taken. I think you could find the same percentage in any elementary school!

So, what does this mean? They indicate that the children were treated by doctors, but none of them reported suspected abuse. I find that hard to believe if they were truly being abused.
I understand that the average is 1% per year outside of El Dorado.
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I understand that the average is 1% per year outside of El Dorado.
Not in MY house! LOL Of course, I don't live in TX.
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