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Old 02-20-2008, 02:09 PM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??

So, whats for lunch?
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Old 02-20-2008, 02:10 PM
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So, whats for lunch?
past lunch bro headed for home later for some supper, lol
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Old 02-20-2008, 02:11 PM
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So, whats for lunch?
Ramen Noodles.

Okay, but I dress them up a little...I don't use the seasoning packet (it gives me a headache--probably msg). You drain the noodles, toss them with a Tbs. of butter (or olive oil), salt, pepper, red pepper flakes, thyme, garlic powder, and 1/2 c. chicken breast cubes.

Yummy!
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Old 02-20-2008, 02:16 PM
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my issue with you in this thread is you speak from both corners of your mouth....often in the same post.
Can you point out where I’ve done this? My wife will sometimes get on my case because I’ll state my opinion and then thoroughly explain why someone might disagree with me. I do this as a courtesy really to show that I understand their point of view. It’s something I’ve done since working with People to People International. While it may annoy me or some of those who know me, I can see why those who are regularly dealing with other cultures or worldviews may find it a valuable tool in aiding communication. That is unless they are mindless ideologues who are so intolerant they can’t tolerate seeing one of their own seek to tolerate another who is unlike their group.

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You dont support the Clintons yet you defend their positions.
I don’t agree with all of the Clinton’s positions and I’ve voiced that in person. I will admit that I don’t agree with all of let’s say, Reagan’s positions either. I’m more of a centrist who is independently minded. I might agree with the left on some issues and the right on others. Also, social conditions may require reigning in the powers that be, be they Democrat or Republican. Power corrupts. I think that this has been part of what has happened with the Republicans. They’ve been in control so long they’ve become corrupt by the power. In my opinion it’s time to “throw the bums out” and bring in a new political party. Eventually they too will have to be removed. Everything is in a constant state of flux. The secret to politics is, knowing what time it is and what the times call for.


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you arent a democrat but you argue for all the salient points of democratism.
The most relevant points of “democratism” are relative. For example I agree with Democrats on economics and health care. I strongly disagree with them on abortion; I’d like to see more restrictions. When it comes to international relations I don’t agree completely with either party. Often the Democrats (post 9-11) seem to be weak. But the Republicans are foolhardy and fail to properly use diplomacy or recognize valuable treaties.

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you dont support Che but defend fellow demcrats who give tacit approval of the murdering monster.
Ferd, I was in the military, you know that already. While serving I came to grips with the fact that I was putting my life on the line to protect people’s rights to believe, think, and speak what they wished. I don’t have to agree with them….but I’d be willing to die to protect their right to say it. And that goes for Democrats or Republicans. I don’t agree with the KKK but I’d defend their freedom to express their opinions. You’re an ultra-rightwing Neo-Conservative, but I’d also defend your right to speak and express your opinions, though I disagree with you on some levels. So I defend their rights to be big Che supporters…but, I don’t agree with them. And frankly, since they are not official representatives of any political campaign it doesn’t matter to me who their voting for. That’s entirely their choice and their right.

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you claim to be maligned and attacked while maligning and attacking the intelegence of your detractors.
When grown men say stupid things or act childish (as I do too sometimes) I call it as I see it. I have no issue with you saying that you disagree because you think something is too socialistic or because you think something expands the power of government outside the parameters you feel comfortable with. But when you say or insinuate that I personally am a Communist, Socialist, Pro-Abortionist, or Che supporter, that’s character assassination, and most of your premise is based on a mischaracterization of my statements, so they are untrue also.

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you stand for free speach but you support the fairness doctrine
I’m not a die hard supporter of the fairness doctrine. I do think there could be more balance on radio however. But I think you said something that caused me to really reconsider the fairness doctrine. You pointed out that for the most part conservative media is limited to radio and Fox News. You also pointed out that you felt the individual had all they needed to choose their source of news for themselves. While I question the benefit of choosing one’s own facts….I understand what you’re saying. You have some valid points. So I don’t see the fairness doctrine as a hill to die on. We’ll just have to make sure that the verifiable facts are accurately reported in media and allow people to choose for themselves which media provides the most reliable information.

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you arent a communist but you advocate the socializing of one fith of the US ECONOMY.
In my opinion only health insurance should be managed by the government. I whole heartedly believe doctors, clinics, hospitals, and specialists should be private institutions. If al Queda was killing 18,000 Americans a year we’d want the government to step in. However, private insurance companies are refusing to cover procedures that may save the lives of these individuals though they apply and plead for coverage. Therefore I see blood on the industry’s hands. When a young woman needs a liver transplant and the hospital has received a matching liver and her insurance company denies coverage for the transplant to protect their profit margin…only to finally reverse itself days before she dies…there’s something terribly wrong with the system.

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i think that sums it up pretty good.
I think you’re struggling with the complexity of this situation.

Why do you feel our Founding Fathers (namely: George Washington, Benjamin Rush, Noah Webster, Robert Coram and Thomas Jefferson) believed in a national publicly funded educational system overseen by the government? According to you anyone advocating such government involvement would be a Communist. Were these men Communists?
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Old 02-20-2008, 02:30 PM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??

you ask me to provide posts where you speak from both corners of your mouth... then you do it....

LOL!
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Old 02-20-2008, 02:32 PM
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Why do you feel our Founding Fathers (namely: George Washington, Benjamin Rush, Noah Webster, Robert Coram and Thomas Jefferson) believed in a national publicly funded educational system overseen by the government? According to you anyone advocating such government involvement would be a Communist. Were these men Communists?
if anyone is struggling with complexity in public policy, I would say it is you.

you dont seem to see the difference between what is already coopted by government and what government is trying to socialize.

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you ask me to provide posts where you speak from both corners of your mouth... then you do it....

LOL!
ferd my man , dont even waste your energy talking to him, let him vote for obama or bilary, whatever, go boy, lol,dt
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ferd my man , dont even waste your energy talking to him, let him vote for obama or bilary, whatever, go boy, lol,dt
my energy? do you see how many letters he is banging out?

do you realize how hard it is to break a quote down like he just did?

LOL! hey, at least im not reading all of it!
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my energy? do you see how many letters he is banging out?

do you realize how hard it is to break a quote down like he just did?

LOL! hey, at least im not reading all of it!
he is drinkin the cool aid dude and it is giving him the energy to press on, lol, dt
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you ask me to provide posts where you speak from both corners of your mouth... then you do it....

LOL!
I was hoping you'd catch that. LOL
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