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Old 02-20-2008, 10:33 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??

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How on earth does he plan on paying teachers more across the country? Everytime he speaks somebody gets a hand out.
well in order to get elected he has to give the farm away, and he doesnt even own it, the people do, lol,dt
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:37 AM
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Can you name a Democrat that embraces the Communist Party of the USA? I’m sure there may be some, but so far the rule was we had to provide names and documentation. In fact there are Trotskyites in the neo-conservative wing of the Republican Party (Wolfowitz, Burnham, and Kristol) that have advocated greatly expanding the power of government in areas that may even violate civil liberties.

My aunt-in-law, Terri McCoy, functioned as the president of the Ohio League of Women Voters and her husband, Rev. David McCoy, served as the dean of the Anglican Academy in Columbus Ohio. My mother-in-law, Ann Lieberman, is the chapter chair of the blue collar chapter of Local 101. All have connections with the Democratic Party leadership and have afforded me the privilege to meet with some very interesting people in the Democratic Party and talk with them personally. None of which were communists. You could say that I’ve gotten to know the Democrats rather well. While I disagree with them on some issues I can testify that they are no more communistic than the Republican Party, who through the Faith Based Initiative is even co-opting the church for the social aspects of its agenda. In fact most Democrats can be described politically as following the political philosophy known as Third Way that favors a mixed Social Democracy.

Even Republicans have been moving this direction in America because it’s just the way the global economy is going and social democracies function quite well in it. Not to mention the globalist socialism of the Republicans. If you follow the money the Republicans redistribute our wealth to third world countries and new nation projects through their globalist agendas. The Republicans have even been huge advocates of using your tax dollars to fund the Iraqi Ministry of Health and its national health care system to cover all Iraqi citizens. Yep…you’re tax dollars are making sure all Iraqis have health insurance, while 47 million Americans don’t have the coverage they need, 1800 die each year because of lack of coverage, and 25000 declare bankruptcy loosing all they’ve ever worked for because they can’t afford their medical bills. So, while the Republicans talk like they’re all “capitalistic”, the Republican Party has yet to find a globalist socialist agenda it couldn’t fund. I’m suspicious of the Trotskyite Neo-Cons. It seems that they discovered that America was never going to loose it’s wealth and standing in the world by adopting hard line Communism…so they joined the Republican Party and now work to redistribute our wealth to the third world, in nation building projects, provide massive tax breaks to companies that leave the US, and frankly…bleed us dry. Also, when I look at the wealthiest and most powerful, private interests in the world, and their agenda for a New World Order, it makes me real suspicious of the Republicans. But that’s all my opinion. But some love the Socialist Republican Party of Globalism.

You even have “Reagan Democrats” who are in the DLC and the Blue Dog Democrat Coalition who have a strong voice in the Democratic Party. There is a also coalition of Pro-Life Democratic leaders who are part of the DFLA (Democrats for Life of America) and the DFV (Democrats for Values) who have been key with Republican Pro-Life efforts.

Bro. Eastman, this is why the “guilt by association” tactic doesn’t provide a true picture of anything, especially when dealing with something as broad as a political party. The need isn’t to go chasing endless rabbit trails pointing to the extremists in either party. We have to focus on the factual details of each of the nominee’s character, vision, positions, initiatives, and experience.

Laddi flipin da!

You sound as if you almost have your Christianity fitting into the party platform that has killed some 40 million souls.

Both of our parties better be glad that this is not the 1960's.

Oliver Stone would have many more movies to shoot.

No pun intended.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:37 AM
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i am in agreement with you ferd i will no more address the young lad who is so determined to be a democrat and yet wants me to sanction his ideas, get real, god bless you my friend, dt
even more confusing is, that while he continues to argue the democratic line, he has steadfastly refused to admit he is, in fact, a democrat.


It's the old "I dont really agree with them but they have good ideas" ploy.

this is a great debate tactic that places the user in the position of being more objective and thus more credible.

hint: it only works when the user is a known quantity opposed to the group they seem to be supportive of.

Chirs has no such history, thus the tactic fails.
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well in order to get elected he has to give the farm away, and he doesnt even own it, the people do, lol,dt
His wife just needs to keep on talking...
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:39 AM
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even more confusing is, that while he continues to argue the democratic line, he has steadfastly refused to admit he is, in fact, a democrat.


It's the old "I dont really agree with them but they have good ideas" ploy.

this is a great debate tactic that places the user in the position of being more objective and thus more credible.

hint: it only works when the user is a known quantity opposed to the group they seem to be supportive of.

Chirs has no such history, thus the tactic fails.
i agree bro, hang in there i got your back, lol,dt
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His wife just needs to keep on talking...
yeah and they need to keep revising the explanation of her words, lol,dt
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yeah and they need to keep revising the explanation of her words, lol,dt
One of the dumbest things I have heard someone say yet.

You know what I know exactly from what perspective she said if from...

It shows her true belief.
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Old 02-20-2008, 10:43 AM
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One of the dumbest things I have heard someone say yet.

You know what I know exactly from what perspective she said if from...

It shows her true belief.
i think she let the cat out, too early for her liking, lol,dt
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One of the dumbest things I have heard someone say yet.

You know what I know exactly from what perspective she said if from...

It shows her true belief.
It is the mindset of the American Liberal Elite. America is the problem.
America is to be blamed first.
we should feel guilty for our success...

etc. etc.

i actually had a college professor (who was one of the best teachers I have ever had) tell the class that Mao was a saint and he didnt really kill all those people. It was just the American Conservitives trying to keep communsim from coming to America! LOL!
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i think she let the cat out, too early for her liking, lol,dt
I bet she is one tough cookie to live with...
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