Most Democrats aren't on the far left. You're classifying an entire party based on it's extremists. Let's be fair....most Republicans aren't market anarchists either.
In fact, no Republican is a "market anarchist." But the Democratic Party has been held under the control of its most extreme elements since at least the 1960's.
Going back to FDR days, the Administrator of FDR's WPA had a portrait of Stalin in his Washington office. Stalin was very much admired by the "Wise Men" of FDR's time. men like John Kenneth Galbraith, Averell Harriman, Dean Acheson and their ilk.
These were the men who created the "American Empire" mythos and urshered in most of the problems of the 20th century.
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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall That wouldn't even be a possibility if we didn't knock down Saddam for them. Bush bit off more than we can chew. Our troop numbers are down and we don't have enough money to continue this war. If we stay, we're going to need to increase taxes to pay for it and re-institute the draft.
No, we will have to encourage the rest of the world to stop coddling terrorists however. Iraq has always been a basket case. Sadaam had to kill millions of his people just to maintain that status quo. We got sick of the carnage and did something about it. That whole part of the world has been a nightmare for 5,000 years.
Isn't it time that somebody somewhere dreamed of a better world? You've got a lot of dreams and hope that big government will fix your every goiter and hang nail. Why not expect a government to also do what it's supposed to do and defend the innocent from murderous thugs?
Last week in Damascus, after a party celebrating the 29th anniversary of Khomeini’s Iranian revolution, some unknown government "official" accomplished a lot of good with a little C4 and a cell phone. Now that's how I'd like to see my government at work.
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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall Actually most American corporations find tax shelters to get out of paying their fair share of taxes.
Can you document this? Sounds like propaganda.
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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall Also right now the government gives tax breaks to corporations that move overseas.
That's right. The US government is paying US corporations to relocate overseas. In fact, I'm thinking of forming several corporations in Nevada next week just to take advantage of the huge windfall opportunity!
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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall What we need to do is minimize tax shelters to insure that corporations are paying their fair share and then only offer generous tax breaks to corporations that remain in the US and keep labor in the US. If a company leaves the US NO tax breaks. Also if a company leaves the US we should place additional taxes on the sale of the goods in the US to make it unprofitable to leave the United States. We are the largest market in the world. They want our business and will stay if the right laws are in place.
Chris, after you have taken someone else's money away from them, at what point do you stop yourself and say, "This is a 'fair' amount to take?"
I picture you and your Union thug buddies cornering the other kids in the bathroom at school. You go through their pockets and take their lunch money. When the kids start to complain or cry a little bit, you just slap them across the face and tell them that you're only taking "what's fair."
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Originally Posted by ChristopherHall Everyone should pay their fair share to carry the tax burden. That's not Marxism.
No, that's tyranny. And just like the school bullies, some day the other kids are going to stand up to you and your Union thugs.
"That's my lunch money! My mom gave it to me because she wants me to grow up and be strong!" And then you and the rest of the bullies will go running out of the bathroom crying about how 'unfair' it is when the little guys stand up to you.
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I contend that you can't find a purely socialist or capitalist nation anymore. The truth of the matter is that most nation today has what is known as a mixed economy with some essential systems socialized and some private. I support municipal run police and fire too...I guess that makes me a socialist also.
This scarcely has any bearing on recent points. It's true that our liberal capitalist society has become increasingly collectivized. However, I am philosophically against the majority of those changes, and would reverse them if I had the power. The residual effects and unintended consequences of these social programs have all been laid out and show that most of such programs aren't just failures, but are culturally and societally destructive. All this social engineering has engineered is a dependency mindset. I recommend that you do a little reading in the "enemy camp" and try to keep an open mind. And by "enemy camp," I don't mean RNC talking points. I'm talking about limited government conservatism and studies of the individual liberty guaranteed in the constitution.
By the way, I support not only municpal fire and police, but trash collection, recycling, parks, water and gas works. So do I get any socialist brownie points for that?
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Your words only go to show us that you don't know what socialism is. . . .
You guys are the most venomous brothers I've ever talked to. You've proven one thing to me...those who champion capitalism are some of the meanest people on earth, even to their "brothers" who may disagree with them.
You'll notice that I've changed my title to reflect your assessment of me. Sometimes I wonder how many others feel the same about me, but then I think, hey, that kid dropped his sandwich . . . LUNCH!
But seriously, Chris, I have no animosity toward you whatsoever and any jabs I may have taken have been in the spirit of fun. I certainly hope you feel the same way . . .
And lastly, Chris, I double-dog dare you to start a poll asking AFF members to opine on whether I'm informed or ignorant, dim-witted or intelligent, open-minded or defiantly stubborn, and heartless or helpful. You have my permission.
Put your money where your mouth is! It might even be fun!
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Engineering solutions for theological problems.
Despite today's rising cost of living, it remains popular.
"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried." - Sir Winston Churchill
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Sir Winston Churchill
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Benjamin Franklin
I am not voting for ObamaSaddam. I am not voting for Hillary (the wo- man) Clinton either. Who does that leave?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Slim pickin's this year- and we're still just beginning the real campaign now. Romney has tried to be the class act, but technically he's still in the mix if no one gets the nomination in the first round or so. He could be the "dark horse." Huck's still playing ball and there are a lot of guys like Bill Frist with national recognition who could emerge if McCain fails to unify a large enough faction behind him.
You have my permission. 
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