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Old 02-11-2008, 10:07 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??

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i vote that the dems and the repubs get there hands out of my back pocket and let me make my own mind up about my health care, lol,dt
Put your money where your words are. If you're employer gives you health insurance opt out and buy your own, paying the full amount without employer contributions.
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:09 AM
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Put your money where your words are. If you're employer gives you health insurance opt out and buy your own, paying the full amount without employer contributions.
hey dude if i dont want your boys telling me what to do what makes you think i care what you think, get a life, not mine, lol,dt
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:14 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??

Obama dosen't seem to think he's a Muslim. More Republican/right wing Christian fairy tales.
Here is his story of faith:
http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060628-call_to_renewal/
And I speak with some experience on this matter. I was not raised in a particularly religious household, as undoubtedly many in the audience were. My father, who returned to Kenya when I was just two, was born Muslim but as an adult became an atheist. My mother, whose parents were non-practicing Baptists and Methodists, was probably one of the most spiritual and kindest people I've ever known, but grew up with a healthy skepticism of organized religion herself. As a consequence, so did I.

It wasn't until after college, when I went to Chicago to work as a community organizer for a group of Christian churches, that I confronted my own spiritual dilemma.

I was working with churches, and the Christians who I worked with recognized themselves in me. They saw that I knew their Book and that I shared their values and sang their songs. But they sensed that a part of me that remained removed, detached, that I was an observer in their midst.

And in time, I came to realize that something was missing as well -- that without a vessel for my beliefs, without a commitment to a particular community of faith, at some level I would always remain apart, and alone.

And if it weren't for the particular attributes of the historically black church, I may have accepted this fate. But as the months passed in Chicago, I found myself drawn - not just to work with the church, but to be in the church.

For one thing, I believed and still believe in the power of the African-American religious tradition to spur social change, a power made real by some of the leaders here today. Because of its past, the black church understands in an intimate way the Biblical call to feed the hungry and cloth the naked and challenge powers and principalities. And in its historical struggles for freedom and the rights of man, I was able to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death, but rather as an active, palpable agent in the world. As a source of hope.

And perhaps it was out of this intimate knowledge of hardship -- the grounding of faith in struggle -- that the church offered me a second insight, one that I think is important to emphasize today.

Faith doesn't mean that you don't have doubts.

You need to come to church in the first place precisely because you are first of this world, not apart from it. You need to embrace Christ precisely because you have sins to wash away - because you are human and need an ally in this difficult journey.

It was because of these newfound understandings that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity United Church of Christ on 95th Street in the Southside of Chicago one day and affirm my Christian faith. It came about as a choice, and not an epiphany. I didn't fall out in church. The questions I had didn't magically disappear. But kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side, I felt that I heard God's spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth.
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:22 AM
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hey dude if i dont want your boys telling me what to do what makes you think i care what you think, get a life, not mine, lol,dt
All talk, no action. lol
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:25 AM
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All talk, no action. lol
i think this is a forum for discussion, not being nosey, try minding your own business dude, if you like hilary or obama it is a free country, but my house and life is off limits to you and all the dems, lol,dt
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:27 AM
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i think this is a forum for discussion, not being nosey, try minding your own business dude, if you like hilary or obama it is a free country, but my house and life is off limits to you and all the dems, lol,dt
You like paying those extra high premiums? He, wouldn't you like to bring home more money in pocket, you worked for it, why do you just want to give it away to some corporation that has no intentions in negotiating your prices down?
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:29 AM
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You like paying those extra high premiums? He, wouldn't you like to bring home more money in pocket, you worked for it, why do you just want to give it away to some corporation that has no intentions in negotiating your prices down?
you obviously dont know me or anything about me, or you wouldnt be runnin off at the mouth, i dotn pay more than i have to for anything, dt
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:32 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??

Do you have health insurance DT? Or are you one of those uninsured people that's causing my premiums to skyrocket?

Don't feel too bad, if that's the case I might be in your shoes next year.
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:34 AM
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Re: Why shouldn't I vote for Obama??

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i think this is a forum for discussion, not being nosey, try minding your own business dude, if you like hilary or obama it is a free country, but my house and life is off limits to you and all the dems, lol,dt

DT,You are wasting precious time dealing with people whose minds are warped and twisted.How such people can call themselves Apostolics is simply a mystery.

In Psalms 1 it says"Blessed is the man who walketh not in the councel of the ungodly"......
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Do you have health insurance DT? Or are you one of those uninsured people that's causing my premiums to skyrocket?
that s funny, of coure i have insurance, and if anybody is making somebodys taxes go up it aint me, you crack me up, i support my family and least 5 more with the taxes i pay, lol
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