My definition of Apostolic and othes definitions please share

[scotty]

I beleive the Welcome page to this forum pretty much sums it up.

Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:

Those that believe that every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith
with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

Okay.

I think Pentecostal is a buzz word today, too popular. Apostolic holds someone to more depth, ironically (in light of what you have posted), in following Jesus. Pentecostals believe in the day of pentecost only, too many times.

I agree with you..

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

To be apostolic you will preach Acts 2:38 as being the ONLY way to be saved. You will also believe in one God. Also, I think that you must believe in holiness inside and out.

That Bible says, Ps 24:3-4
3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?
4 He that hath clean hands (outward holiness), and a pure heart (inward holiness); who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
KJV


If are really going to be apostolic we will have both.

The problem with outward holiness (standards)

"There are just to many holes in the teachings"

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

The problem with outward holiness (standards)

"There are just to many holes in the teachings"

Not with all of them. Most of them a based on Biblical principle but since there are holes in teachings of somethings should we just throw all of them out? Don't you think it would be better to look at all of them with scripture and keep those that are found in the Word?

What I don't get is why you guys want to throw all of them away instead of looking to see what is found in scripture and what is just opinions. Also before you through away all the "traditions" remember this scripture. 2 Thess 2:15
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
KJV

Every man must work out his own salvation with fear and trembling, but don't attack those who want to hold to all the traditions they have been taught. There is nothing wrong with living them.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

You can be Apostolic and NOT be a Christian but you CANNOT be a Christian and NOT be Apostolic.

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Really?

So, you feel someone can be Apostolic by your definition and not be a Christian?

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

That made my head spin:

Originally Posted by OneAccord

It was said elsewhere on this thread that to be Apostolic one must "preach, practice and live" what the Apostles preach. Then, here, we find one can be Apostolic and not be a Christian. Isn't "preaching, practicing, and living" what the Apostles taught the same thing as being a Christain? How is one Apostolic but not a Christian?

I'm not trying to speak for Epley, so he can clarify this further if he likes...
but from how I understood his comment, I don't see that there's any contradiction there all.

A person can call identify themselves as Apostolic but not be a true Christian in their character.

But anyone who is a true Christian according to the word of God will be Apostolic, in the sense that they have submitted to the Acts 2:38 plan of salvation.

That sounds like what he was trying to say. And I happen to agree.


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[augustianian]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

To be apostolic you will preach Acts 2:38 as being the ONLY way to be saved. You will also believe in one God. Also, I think that you must believe in holiness inside and out.

That Bible says, Ps 24:3-4
3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?
4 He that hath clean hands (outward holiness), and a pure heart (inward holiness); who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
KJV


If are really going to be apostolic we will have both.

If you read the rest of Psalms 24 it reveals He who ascends into the hill of the Lord....7 Lift up your heads, O you gates;
be lifted up, you ancient doors,
that the King of glory may come in.

8 Who is this King of glory?
The LORD strong and mighty,
the LORD mighty in battle.

9 Lift up your heads, O you gates;
lift them up, you ancient doors,
that the King of glory may come in.

10 Who is he, this King of glory?
The LORD Almighty—
he is the King of glory.
Selah

The only way we can ascend the hill of the Lord is by being covered by His righteousness. The righteousness that comes by faith.

a

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by augustianian

If you read the rest of Psalms 24 it reveals He who ascends into the hill of the Lord....7 Lift up your heads, O you gates;
be lifted up, you ancient doors,
that the King of glory may come in.

8 Who is this King of glory?
The LORD strong and mighty,
the LORD mighty in battle.

9 Lift up your heads, O you gates;
lift them up, you ancient doors,
that the King of glory may come in.

10 Who is he, this King of glory?
The LORD Almighty—
he is the King of glory.
Selah

The only way we can ascend the hill of the Lord is by being covered by His righteousness. The righteousness that comes by faith.

a

When I walk in his righteousness it will reflect in outward holiness.

[augustianian]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

When I walk in his righteousness it will reflect in outward holiness.

As a general statement I agree...however, you and i might mean something different by saying it. I don't know.

a

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Not a bad word. I can tell you the PCI and PA-JC decided to leave it out of newly formed organization name. Becasue of the negative view of the term in the 40's.

They did not think highly of using it so why the buzz today....

Call yourself Pentecostal/Oneness...

The Azuza Street folks (William Seymore) were good with using it, as seen on this page.



http://www.videirasampa.org.br/porta...avivamento.asp

[grace_seeker]

Originally Posted by Walkbyfaith7

A brother asked me if I was Apostolic. Wow, to me that is a word that requires a pretty big definition. In other words, I do not believe the most common or 'popular definition' really fits in when I think about being Apostolic. But in this thread I will at time attempt to share my definition of what it means to be 'Apostolic' and it's my hope others will share and who knows- maybe we'll learn something?

Interesting question. Since I am Greek I always thought that Apostolic meant what it always meant. Apostolos means something like "one sent with a message"....so Apostolic means "one who is sent"...or literally..."sent from afar".