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10-20-2007, 11:45 PM
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I would have to disagree. I think doubting God is being human and we have all done it at times. That is why we walk by faith. That faith gets us through the times of doubt.
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I think doubting and questioning are not the same. ...I don't doubt any of God's greatness or "abilities" but I do question Him. I think God likes that. Look at Job, David, Habbakuk, Moses, Abraham, etc.
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10-20-2007, 11:46 PM
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Doubting God is sin.
Being skeptical of traditions of men is not.
Far too often we confuse the two.
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See John the Baptist.
2Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples,
3And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?
Doubt is not the absence of faith ... it is a crossroads to unbelief or deeper faith.
The key is bringing our doubt to Jesus.
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10-20-2007, 11:46 PM
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Wow....having an OPEN MIND has NOTHING to do with NOT demanding proof. In fact someone with an OPEN mind is very OPEN to the proof.
What you are talking about is not an OPEN MIND. Not sure what the word is for it. But someone with an OPEN mind is willing to look at ALL the facts and proofs one can bring up. Having an OPEN mind does not mean accepting ALL things as true without proof. Having an OPEN mind is a good thing.
For example: A Muslim without an open mind will not look objectively at whatever evidence you can present for Christ. A Muslim with an open mind will take a look at the evidence objectively..
Open mindedness means objectivity
Close mindedness means subjectivity.
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Well that's just fine and dandy but how open-minded are you?
Would you read Steven King? Watch Harry Potter? Accept Trinitarianism as a viable alternative to Oneness theology? Further, how do you know what the facts are?
Open-mindedness has no limits. A truly open-minded person must accept the idea that either all is truth or there is no truth.
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10-20-2007, 11:48 PM
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See John the Baptist.
2Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples,
3And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?
Doubt is not the absence of faith ... it is a crossroads to unbelief or deeper faith.
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Are you sure about that? I mean that sounds real pretty and all, but is that biblical?
Also, questioning is not the same as doubting.
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10-20-2007, 11:48 PM
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I think you just want to argue. 
Truth: Unbelief is sin.
Truth: Doubt = unbelief
Truth: Doubt = sin |
When does doubt become sin? Is it when a fiery dart of doubt comes whizzing into your mind and you think about it and then reject it because you know it isn't from God or is it when you allow that thought to dwell in your mind and then act on it or speak it?
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10-20-2007, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JaneEyre
I think doubting and questioning are not the same. ...I don't doubt any of God's greatness or "abilities" but I do question Him. I think God likes that. Look at Job, David, Habbakuk, Moses, Abraham, etc.
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Great post!
I totally agree.
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10-20-2007, 11:49 PM
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Great post pelathais.
It's just silly to accept all views as truth.
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Accepting all views as truthes is not "Open Mindedness"
In fact the only thing I can think of coming close is New Ageism, which says what ever is true for you is true for you, but what is true for me might not be true for you.
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10-20-2007, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Doubt is not the absence of faith ... it is a crossroads to unbelief or deeper faith.
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Dan, is this an original thought? 
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
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10-20-2007, 11:51 PM
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Are you sure about that? I mean that sounds real pretty and all, but is that biblical?
Also, questioning is not the same as doubting.
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Questioning is doubting ... sir .... at it's core.
Which would you rather hear ....???
Option A
Sir ... we've looked at all the medical exams and you are going to die within 6 weeks. There is no hope.
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Option B
Sir ... we've looked at all the medical exams and it doesn't look good ... but there is a slight chance you can survive this ...
I'll take option B ... doubt ... means there's still hope ...
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10-20-2007, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
When does doubt become sin? Is it when a fiery dart of doubt comes whizzing into your mind and you think about it and then reject it because you know it isn't from God or is it when you allow that thought to dwell in your mind and then act on it or speak it?
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The former implies temptation which excuses us from the sin of doubt. the latter would be unbelief.
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