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Old 08-28-2007, 11:09 PM
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I disagree, if you take Paul's letter to the Galatian church legalism was cursed and was considered almost bewitching. I think he reserved his strongest rebukes and condemnation for Legalism.

But either way the practicing homosexual or legalist will both go to hell.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:12 PM
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Fort Luaderdale has nothing on the area I live in. That's coming from a person I know who used to live in that area of Florida. Legalism has been defined, dig through the posts and find it.

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Fort Lauderdale?





The Netherlands? So now legalists are equal to dope heads? Or should I say dope heads who are perverts?




Lord bless it and reel'em in! Remember they are to be saved from their sin, not in their sin.




Smoke? As in? You sat with them while they smoked dope?



Explain what your idea of legalism in your own words.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:17 PM
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If the opposite of homosexuality is being straight, the opposite of legalism is ________________?
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:30 PM
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False dichotomy.
So are you stating, for the record, that legalism is false dichotomy?

Or that my question is an incorrect division of the two terms?
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illegalism??
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:38 PM
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I disagree, if you take Paul's letter to the Galatian church legalism was cursed and was considered almost bewitching. I think he reserved his strongest rebukes and condemnation for Legalism.

But either way the practicing homosexual or legalist will both go to hell.
It depends upon ones definition of legalism. If legalism is a preacher reading the bible, and preaching for folks to obey it or they will be lost, I disagree with you. Is this considered "works based" salvation?? That was what Paul was dealing with.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:41 PM
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illegalism??
Is that something we should be shooting for?

We know that man and woman together make one flesh in marriage, it's good to be 'straight'.

What is the opposite of legalism that we should be striving after?
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Sorry for the terseness of my earlier reply... I was moving between locations.

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If the opposite of homosexuality is being straight, the opposite of legalism is ________________?


Your variables look like this:

gay=straight and so legalism=x

"Legalism" (however defined) is not contingent upon the meaning of gay or straight. The opposite of "gay" could be "up" and the outcome of the later part of your syllogism is still whatever the value of x is.

In other words, we could say:

"The opposite of ON is OFF; therefore the opposite of UP is DOWN."

While being, technically a TRUE statement, as a syllogism it is a false dichotomy. What if I said, "The opposite of ON is UNDER..." Would that change the meaning of "the opposite of UP is DOWN?" No. UP and DOWN are still opposites.

Therefore, your question presented the reader with a false dichotomy or even a false dilemma. By wording the question in such a way you were actually crafting your own response, not making an inquiry into truth.
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Old 08-29-2007, 12:46 AM
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In my own vocabulary, I suppose the opposite of "legalism" would be "the Christian faith."

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
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