Homosexuality Or Legalism--Which Is Worse? - Page 4

tv1a · #31 08-26-2007, 03:53 PM

Legalists are serving something.

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

I think that legalists and homosexuals are different in that legalists are trying to serve God but a homosexual is serving themselves.

Would you rather have someone who serves God and may go overboard in their concept of standards, or have a someone who's only real concern is serving them self?

RevDWW · #32 08-26-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

Legalists are serving something.

As Bob Dylan sang "You gotta serve somebody, it might be the devil or it might be the Lord, but you're gonna have to serve somebody".

Now have about answering my question.......

tv1a · #33 08-26-2007, 04:15 PM

You caught me in a rare terse moment. I was trying to be diplomatic. But since you ask, legalists are serving a spirit of control and manipulation. It's got a name, but I've dealt with the spirit in real life. I don't have a desire to deal with it in cyberspace.

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

As Bob Dylan sang "You gotta serve somebody, it might be the devil or it might be the Lord, but you're gonna have to serve somebody".

Now have about answering my question.......

ILG · #34 08-26-2007, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

You caught me in a rare terse moment. I was trying to be diplomatic. But since you ask, legalists are serving a spirit of control and manipulation. It's got a name, but I've dealt with the spirit in real life. I don't have a desire to deal with it in cyberspace.

Very true.

#35 08-26-2007, 06:36 PM

Good thing the question isn't, "Who is more pleasant to be around, homosexuals or legalists?".

Sister Alvear · #36 08-26-2007, 06:55 PM

How could we decide who is a legalist?
By what standard?
We all KNOW what Homosexuality is but how would we define a legalist? Yes, I know the dictionary might tell us something but I mean among us how would we decide if we wanted too just who is a legalist?

deacon blues · #37 08-26-2007, 07:09 PM

In answer to the original question----sin is sin is sin. There are different severities as to the consequences of sin, but ultimately we don't want to be bound by sin. Whether its perversion OR religiosity, neither is pleasing to the Lord, so quit worrying about which is worse and GO AND SIN NO MORE!!!!!!

tv1a · #38 08-26-2007, 07:17 PM

Everyone has their own interpretation of apostolic. I think we could come up with a couple million different definitions of legalism.

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

How could we decide who is a legalist?
By what standard?
We all KNOW what Homosexuality is but how would we define a legalist? Yes, I know the dictionary might tell us something but I mean among us how would we decide if we wanted too just who is a legalist?

tv1a · #39 08-26-2007, 07:18 PM

It's a no brainer....

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Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

Good thing the question isn't, "Who is more pleasant to be around, homosexuals or legalists?".

pelathais · #40 08-26-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by johnmark93

... Quoting Amos ....
The spirit of homosexuality denies the power and ored of God and creation itself. In that dimension, it is more akin to the Saducees, who were completely unspiritual. Jesus had NO time for them. The Pharisees He did at least deal with, and salvaged some of them.

You will find nowhere in the Gospels where He spent any time working on a Saducee.
... end Amos quote ...

I share your concerns Amos. Romans 1 is a harsh condemnation against those who "turned the truth of God into a lie, worshipped the creature more than the creator, and left the natural use" of the opposite sex. They even went so far as to remove every thought of God from their minds.

I can also see the hideous, soul-crushing effects of legalism as well. Jesus seemed to address the issue of legalism on a fairly regular basis. It was a huge issue in His day. The Pharisees were using legalism as a tool to keep people away from right relationship with God. In this way legalism was perversion of another stripe.

There are similarities and I, for one, would not want to be in a position to defend either sin. Both sins lead to separation from God. The only real difference I see is that homosexuality is a personal choice that primarily affects the consenting parties while legalism can affect entire groups of innocent individuals whose only desire is to attain close proximity to Jesus.

I don't think Jesus deliberately avoided the Sadducees; they were just more isolated and unavailable than the Pharisees. The Pharisees were also having the greater impact upon the lives of the people.

The Sadducee sect was primarily limited to the Temple hierarchy while the Pharisees had set up a nationwide alternative to the Temple's schools- the synagogue system. Thus the Pharisees were literally everywhere you went in 1st Century Israel. Granted that's a minor point- but important when asking why Jesus didn't spend more time on the Sadducees.