Elder Ensey's article about tv advertizing

[Sister Alvear]

No, I was just thinking what people that love him would feel and I do understand where you are coming from. The rule Jesus gave us holds true...Love...
Blessings to you,my friend.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Admin

Triumphant1, please change this post and remove the negative remarks about a minister, this post has been reported. Please be advised that if you refuse we will do it for you and will take further action.

If you will edit it then that will be the end of this matter.

Please refrain from making these kind of remarks about anyone as they are not welcome here.

Thanks in advance.

Admin

But of coarse...I sould have expected...what about this:

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Guys like Parsely and Jakes have learned to say a lot without exactly saying anything flat our wrong, but at the same time not telling you the most important thing of all--how to be saved.

[Sister Alvear]

It takes a lot to offend me...I am a people lover. Many times our differences cause us to appreciate each other more.

[IAintMovin]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

I am sorry 'bout making you sad....

You guys say things about men I consider great men of God all the time and you expect me just to take it....for instance there is a thread right now that has terrible remarks by Coonskinner about TD Jakes and Rod Parsley....

How does it feel?

Thanks for taking the bait....

One time you and I got into it and I laid into you pretty good.....I have felt very bad over that night many times........but I take issue with your "you guys" statement.....go find ONE time where I slammed these people you are talking about.....just once.....look long and look hard but it is not there.....if you feel that someone has slammed a minister or ministry, there is a report tool that can be used from any post.......But Bo, your YOU GUYS aint me..........

[Sister Alvear]

Let´s all pray for each other...love must melt our hearts together.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by IAintMovin

One time you and I got into it and I laid into you pretty good.....I have felt very bad over that night many times........but I take issue with your "you guys" statement.....go find ONE time where I slammed these people you are talking about.....just once.....look long and look hard but it is not there.....if you feel that someone has slammed a minister or ministry, there is a report tool that can be used from any post.......But Bo, your YOU GUYS aint me..........

Ok so you guys ain't you...so let me say some of you guys...

Bottom line, there is a double standard here. I keeo getting this...Dont offend the cons stuff...well what about the remarks about Jakes especially?

[IAintMovin]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

Ok so you guys ain't you...so let me say some of you guys...

Bottom line, there is a double standard here. I keeo getting this...Dont offend the cons stuff...well what about the remarks about Jakes especially?

The dont offend the Cons line is one that I have only seen you come up with........and I will be honest and say that I believe it is pretty evenly dished out around here, I dont bet, but if I did I would bet you anything that for every "lib" bad statement, I can find a "Con" bad statement....and so on and so on.........

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by IAintMovin

The dont offend the Cons line is one that I have only seen you come up with........and I will be honest and say that I believe it is pretty evenly dished out around here, I dont bet, but if I did I would bet you anything that for every "lib" bad statement, I can find a "Con" bad statement....and so on and so on.........

I tell you what, ask Jeannie and rgcraig about that.

Boom gave me an infraction because "I offended all cons on the forum"...he authored it, I only repeated my infraction from before

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

I tell you what, ask Jeannie and rgcraig about that.

Boom gave me an infraction because "I offended all cons on the forum"...he authored it, I only repeated my infraction from before

You are welcome to take that up with me in PM.

[Brett Prince]

T1, I do not see a double standard. This is an Apostolic forum. We do not have the right to deride an Apostolic minister in the manner that you have done. We have, on the other hand, the right to defend whether or not there is salvation outside of Acts 2:38 with tongues. TD Jakes and Rod Parsley, in many posters' opinion, do not preach the Acts 2:38 with tongues message. This does not give these posters the right to same defaming things about them, save to state that they do not believe that they preach a message that brings the lost to become saved. However, issues of standards are matters that happen within the Apostolic community as a whole...that is with people who do preach Jesus Name baptism, the Oneness of the Godhead as opposed to the trinity, and the infilling of the Holy Ghost with tongues--regardless of where they place salvation. We can refute another position, and we can state our differences, but we do not have to resort to name calling and labeling in such a way that we are making a mockery of another person's ministry, character, or good name. Nor should we do that with their church or place of ministry, be it a particular assembly, or the production of a magazine.

Regardless of whether they are Apostolic or not does not give us the right to call names or the like. To declare our beliefs as to whether they preach a saving message is certainly allowed.

And, T1, just because somebody else does it, liberal or conservative, I trust that this does mean that you would decide that it should be repeated by a person of integrity--and I am trusting that you are.

I value your comments. Thank you for adding to the discussion here. I only mean well. Peace, good sir.