Wading through the wedding rings

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

My question has always been how can a plastic earbob costing a few bucks be an ornament and a ring on the hand with a diamond not be? Or take the ring off the hand place it in the ear THEN it becomes jewelry???? Makes no sense to me????
NOT & NOR are using with gold in these epistles I think I understand without a Greek lesson what NOT means.

But if you add a ticking mechanism and wear it around your wrist it's alright.....

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

But if you add a ticking mechanism and wear it around your wrist it's alright.....

It the band is ornamental I concur. I wear a belt ot hold my pants up it is not ornamental and my band I promise is not the least bit ornamental nor my time piece. I do not even carry a gold pen in my pocket.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

It the band is ornamental I concur. I wear a belt ot hold my pants up it is not ornamental and my band I promise is not the least bit ornamental nor my time piece. I do not even carry a gold pen in my pocket.

At least you're consistent unlike many I could name....starting with me.

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

My question has always been how can a plastic earbob costing a few bucks be an ornament and a ring on the hand with a diamond not be? Or take the ring off the hand place it in the ear THEN it becomes jewelry???? Makes no sense to me????
NOT & NOR are using with gold in these epistles I think I understand without a Greek lesson what NOT means.

My question has always been how can folks miss the fact that Paul and Peter both were adressing adorning the hidden man of the heart.

The 400 year old language of the KJV probably trips some up. people who do not take into account the idoms of the KJV laguage misss the fact that both passages were had the emphasis on the adorning with the love of God. To let Christ in you be what is shining in your lives, not your ornamanets/clothing and fancy hair doos.

This was also addressed because of people of so many economic levels.
Peter and Paul both desired that the poor could worship together with people of great wealth and not feel like they "went to the prom wothout a tux or a formal"

The wealthy could hire hairdressers to fix their hair elaboratly and don lavish costly clothing and addorn themselves with the jewelry that the hebrews were accustommed to wearing in that day.

The scriptural admonition was to admonish the rich that is was Christ, the hidden man of the heart, that counted in their lives, NOT how fancy they got dolled up for church.

This a lesson we can all apply in our lives today.

It was NEVER about the simple adornment of the jewelry they all wore.
It was NEVER about being able to dress nice
It was NEVER about if you wore your hair up or down ladies.

It was abouting adorning with Christ.

If you don't believe it that way. Well, I pray for you...cause you ar ejust plain wrong !

[OP_Carl]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

My question has always been how can a plastic earbob costing a few bucks be an ornament and a ring on the hand with a diamond not be? Or take the ring off the hand place it in the ear THEN it becomes jewelry???? Makes no sense to me????
NOT & NOR are using with gold in these epistles I think I understand without a Greek lesson what NOT means.

I think I see how you are getting here. Thanks again for explaining your position.

I look at it like they were not to esteem costly clothing and jewelry, or to use it to attempt to draw people to Christ. In other words, try not to stand out in the crowd or draw attention to yourself, but let the focus be on God, and let the adorning of your heart with a meek spirit full of the fruits of the Holy Ghost be what draws men to God.

Even the poorest among us can manage to scrounge up a simple wedding band. I do not see it as a great divider between the 'haves' and the 'have-nots.' These days, many men are choosing jewel-encrusted wedding rings for themselves. What I haven't seen is people braiding gold into their hair.

I believe my simple, smooth gold wedding ring does more good than harm. People that see me with my kids on the weekend on an outing with "just Daddy" can see that I'm not just another poor slob with weekend visitation rights and a heap-o'-child-support payments to make. Hey look, some people can stay married after they have children!

It also prevents the lion's share of "conversations" that might lead to temptation. Well, maybe not in my case . . . .

Brother Epley, what do the bride and groom exchange as a token in weddings in your church?

[OP_Carl]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

My question has always been how can folks miss the fact that Paul and Peter both were adressing adorning the hidden man of the heart.

The 400 year old language of the KJV probably trips some up. people who do not take into account the idoms of the KJV laguage misss the fact that both passages were had the emphasis on the adorning with the love of God. To let Christ in you be what is shining in your lives, not your ornamanets/clothing and fancy hair doos.

This was also addressed because of people of so many economic levels.
Peter and Paul both desired that the poor could worship together with people of great wealth and not feel like they "went to the prom wothout a tux or a formal"

The wealthy could hire hairdressers to fix their hair elaboratly and don lavish costly clothing and addorn themselves with the jewelry that the hebrews were accustommed to wearing in that day.

The scriptural admonition was to admonish the rich that is was Christ, the hidden man of the heart, that counted in their lives, NOT how fancy they got dolled up for church.

This a lesson we can all apply in our lives today.

It was NEVER about the simple adornment of the jewelry they all wore.
It was NEVER about being able to dress nice
It was NEVER about if you wore your hair up or down ladies.

It was abouting adorning with Christ.

Very interesting. You make a lot of assertions. How do you know:

1) It was NEVER about the simple adornment of the jewelry they all wore?
2) It was NEVER about being able to dress nice?
3) It was NEVER about if you wore your hair up or down ladies.?

What have you used as a basis to reach your position?

[Esther]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

My question has always been how can folks miss the fact that Paul and Peter both were adressing adorning the hidden man of the heart.

The 400 year old language of the KJV probably trips some up. people who do not take into account the idoms of the KJV laguage misss the fact that both passages were had the emphasis on the adorning with the love of God. To let Christ in you be what is shining in your lives, not your ornamanets/clothing and fancy hair doos.

This was also addressed because of people of so many economic levels.
Peter and Paul both desired that the poor could worship together with people of great wealth and not feel like they "went to the prom wothout a tux or a formal"

The wealthy could hire hairdressers to fix their hair elaboratly and don lavish costly clothing and addorn themselves with the jewelry that the hebrews were accustommed to wearing in that day.

The scriptural admonition was to admonish the rich that is was Christ, the hidden man of the heart, that counted in their lives, NOT how fancy they got dolled up for church.

This a lesson we can all apply in our lives today.

It was NEVER about the simple adornment of the jewelry they all wore.
It was NEVER about being able to dress nice
It was NEVER about if you wore your hair up or down ladies.

It was abouting adorning with Christ.

If you don't believe it that way. Well, I pray for you...cause you ar ejust plain wrong !

Good post.

This is an area where a lot of diversity is seen.

[OP_Carl]

Originally Posted by Esther

Good post.

On what basis or principles have you decided this was a good post?

This is an area where a lot of diversity is seen.

Yessss.

[Felicity]

Good posts by OP Carl and FreeAtLast!

[Esther]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

On what basis or principles have you decided this was a good post?

Yessss.

He hit what the principal of the message of that scripture is. WE, me included had missed it for years.