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Old 02-26-2007, 12:08 PM
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Acts 2:38 still works in Brazil...
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:09 PM
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He is referring to the same slippery slope argument that anti-TV zealots are using...and the same that you have condemned as committing spiritual abortion... Did I interpret you correctly Dan?
Dan, I see that you are back...did I understand your comment correctly?
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:23 PM
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He is referring to the same slippery slope argument that anti-TV zealots are using...and the same that you have condemned as committing spiritual abortion... Did I interpret you correctly Dan?
There is a huge problem with your logic here.


1. If you lump me in with the anti-television zealots, you are saying that my definition of Acts 2:38 is as heretical as saying "watching a television will send you to Hell". I cannot imagine Daniel thinking or saying such a thing about me.

2. Spiritual abortion comes in many guises. Which is worse, addiing an unnecessary obstacle to a new believers pathway to Jesus, or never even telling them how to properly respond to the gospel?
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:33 PM
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There is a huge problem with your logic here.


1. If you lump me in with the anti-television zealots, you are saying that my definition of Acts 2:38 is as heretical as saying "watching a television will send you to Hell". I cannot imagine Daniel thinking or saying such a thing about me.

2. Spiritual abortion comes in many guises. Which is worse, addiing an unnecessary obstacle to a new believers pathway to Jesus, or never even telling them how to properly respond to the gospel?
PP ... this is exactly what Felicity and others have been trying to say about those who would make the gift of the Holy Ghost as an obstacle ... or forcing others to accept your exact soteriological view ....
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:38 PM
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PP ... this is exactly what Felicity and others have been trying to say about those who would make the gift of the Holy Ghost as an obstacle ... or forcing others to accept your exact soteriological view ....
So you think that because I preach that the Holy Ghost baptism is necessary for salvation I am heretical, and a spiritual abortionist?

I do not view the Holy Ghost as an obstacle, I view it as the Power that removes obstacles.
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:39 PM
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Right now I picture you as a parrot on Daniel's shoulder -echoing everything he says. Care to share some original thoughts on the subject?
J-Roc ... my parrot, lol... He's my mentor.
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:40 PM
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So you think that because I preach that the Holy Ghost baptism is necessary for salvation I am heretical, and a spiritual abortionist?

I do not view the Holy Ghost as an obstacle, I view it as the Power that removes obstacles.
No one said you do ... but would you acknowlege it's pervasive in your movement???
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:42 PM
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No one said you do ... but would you acknowlege it's pervasive in your movement???

I thought we were part of the SAME movement?
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:43 PM
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I thought we were part of the SAME movement?
No answer ... I used the term movement so not be accused of org bashing
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:44 PM
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No one said you do ... but would you acknowlege it's pervasive in your movement???
Pervasive no, present yes.
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