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Old 07-12-2007, 12:48 PM
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Show me where money was used to give tithes....you wont find it.
Show me in the bible where every specific item that should be tithed is outlined.

the bible speaks of increase. Money in our age is increase.
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I love when you throw out insults ... and then go back and edit ... J ... he called you my parrot.
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:50 PM
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I love when you throw out insults ... and then go back and edit ... J ... he called you my parrot.
What are you talking about? I would never insult J-Roc.

Now you are a different story altogether!
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:52 PM
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to add to that comment regarding ease of transport....they would exchange it again for livestock and grains when they reached their destination...then they would eat unto the Lord....
Rabbi Master Shalom,

You are not suggesting the the holy scrolls state that they ate from the pastor's "bonus" ... are you???
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I love when you throw out insults ... and then go back and edit ... J ... he called you my parrot.


The slow poke ain't quick enough on the draw...I caught it on time before the edit was made....
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:53 PM
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Rabbi Master Shalom,

You are not suggesting the the holy scrolls state that they ate from the pastor's "bonus" ... are you???
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:59 PM
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What are you talking about? I would never insult J-Roc.

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Old 07-12-2007, 01:10 PM
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AQ man working in a whatmacallit factory would pay tithes how????

A contractor would pay tithes how??????

A computer analysis would pay tithes how???????

This the goofiest I have ever read Daniel should have said "knowledge shall decrease."

They lived in a agricultural society yes there was money but mostly barter and it worked and would work again today if the same society existed. Saints do the equvilent of that with money. I yet recieve tithes in garden stuff.
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Old 07-12-2007, 01:12 PM
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AQ man working in a whatmacallit factory would pay tithes how????

A contractor would pay tithes how??????

A computer analysis would pay tithes how???????

This the goofiest I have ever read Daniel should have said "knowledge shall decrease."

They lived in a agricultural society yes there was money but mostly barter and it worked and would work again today if the same society existed. Saints do the equvilent of that with money. I yet recieve tithes in garden stuff.
There is no evidence that those who worked for a wage only actually paid a tithe in the OT.

A wage is not increase... a wage is compensation.
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Old 07-12-2007, 01:12 PM
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Show me in the bible where every specific item that should be tithed is outlined.

the bible speaks of increase. Money in our age is increase.

Many Christians think that the only type of of wealth or substance is money. This incorrect thinking, along with other inaccurate teachings on this subject, is the reason this passage is so highly misinterpreted by many believers today. The fact of the matter is, neither this verse nor any other Bible verse supports present day "tithes and offerings"

In Proverbs 3:9 are the words: "Honor the Lord with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase..."

The question becomes, "How does one honor the Lord with his wealth or substance?" To honor the Lord with wealth or show gratitude towards God, one can provide a free will offering...there is no set amount to give in this type of offering.

Exodus 35:5 - "From what you have, take an offering for the LORD. Everyone who is willing is to bring to the LORD an offering of gold, silver and bronze".

Again, there is no set amount in this free will offering. In addition, a person can give a thank offering unto the Lord, or even a gift offering...there are plenty of ways to honor the Lord with their substance or wealth...but this is not the tithe.

Firstly, it is erroneous to consider firstfruit and tithe synonymous terms...accordingly, Proverbs 3:9 does not suggest that a person give 10 percent of his income to the Lord....Secondly, the firstfruit is a food substance, and according to the Bible, the firstfruit is not a specific amount (see Exodus 23:16-19 , Deuteronomy 26:2 , Nehemiah 10:37 and Nehemiah 12:44 )
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