Were tithes ever required by Jesus or the Apostles?

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by mfblume

What makes one willing to give is FAITH. Without faith, we cannot please God, bro. And it is not faith without works, btw.

Exactly!!! So when you give its in faith, when you don't give its the lack thereof. The lack of faith is the same as sin. Thank you elder!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

Exactly!!! So when you give its in faith, when you don't give its the lack thereof. The lack of faith is the same as sin. Thank you elder!

Let's not make this a rule that lack of tithing is sin. God never specificed how much in the New Testament. But giving nothing leaves us without blessing, is all. If God SPEAKS to us to give something, and we disobey, then that is sin.

[freeatlast]

[QUOTE=BrotherEastman;160328]I was responding to someone who said that it was about faith. Hey, if you don't want to give, then don't. I could care less if you ever get a blessing!!!![/QUOTE]

No need to get nasty there my brother.

I've been audited by the IRS on three differnet years for being over 50% of my income on charitable giving. And God has blessed tremendously in my life. BUT 10% tithing is NOT a NT requiremnt.

Giving is encouraged by the NT writers, as each one determines in his own heart and that itr be not of compulsion.

If we teach eronously that tithing is required tio be saved and we get people to give their 10% whaty have we acomplished. We have robbed thenm of the blessing that comes from giving as God directs your heart to give.

you teach a right doctrine, that salvation is by the grace of God and people will fall in love with God and the funds to supply the needs of the assembly will come in.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by OP_Carl

Except for the fact that the whole idea, including the 10% figure, comes straight from the bible! ! ! !

If the adoption of biblical principles as personal habits is to be regarded as rejection of grace and creation of works salvation, we are ALL DOOMED! ! ! !

I couldn't agree with you more that it all began in God's mind to begin with.

[Brett Prince]

Originally Posted by Michlow

Can you please provide scripture?

That would make it too easy. You will have to do the research yourself.

[Brett Prince]

Originally Posted by COOPER

I was searching and can not find it.

I found these verses.



Looks like most of the tithe payers in the New Testiment were Hypo-crites.

I can not find a requirement.

Unfortunately, I am at work, and have not the time nor a Bible program to use for such things. But consider, he said these things ye had ought to do..., but rather they should have also done the other thing. It meant that they SHOULD PAY TITHES, but that they should have also done other things.

It is easy to play a Christian by paying tithes, and not living the life at home, or in private. What is harder is to do both. Tithes shouldn't be skipped to not be a hypocrite--one should do the other as well.

[BrotherEastman]

[QUOTE=freeatlast;160368]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

I was responding to someone who said that it was about faith. Hey, if you don't want to give, then don't. I could care less if you ever get a blessing!!!![/QUOTE]

No need to get nasty there my brother.

I've been audited by the IRS on three differnet years for being over 50% of my income on charitable giving. And God has blessed tremendously in my life. BUT 10% tithing is NOT a NT requiremnt.

Giving is encouraged by the NT writers, as each one determines in his own heart and that itr be not of compulsion.

If we teach eronously that tithing is required tio be saved and we get people to give their 10% whaty have we acomplished. We have robbed thenm of the blessing that comes from giving as God directs your heart to give.

you teach a right doctrine, that salvation is by the grace of God and people will fall in love with God and the funds to supply the needs of the assembly will come in.

Thats what happens when you assume that I was. I see tithing as a principle that was definately something done in faith. FYI, I teach tithing as a principle not as a salvational requirement. Tithing is something that is done because one desires to do it, not because its mandatory. Please forgive me for being a bit testy, one of my pet peaves is those that let everyone else do all the giving. It wouldn't be such a problem if it was mainly because people were poor. But when you have people who are quite able to give but do not...................well............ you get what I'm trying to say.

[Brett Prince]

[quote=BrotherEastman;160399]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Thats what happens when you assume that I was. I see tithing as a principle that was definately something done in faith. FYI, I teach tithing as a principle not as a salvational requirement. Tithing is something that is done because one desires to do it, not because its mandatory. Please forgive me for being a bit testy, one of my pet peaves is those that let everyone else do all the giving. It wouldn't be such a problem if it was mainly because people were poor. But when you have people who are quite able to give but do not...................well............ you get what I'm trying to say.

Same here, with one added provision. If a person does not give to God freely, he cannot expect to reap the same. If a person is not accountable to God for God's blessing financially, he will not receive any. If we are not committed to God financially, we cannot expect Him to be committed to us in return, financially. Ten percent is a Bible principle that will determine the attitude of a person's heart. I pity the man who will not pay tithes cheerfully.

[FirstRev]

Genesis 14:17-20
And the king of Sodom went out to meet him after his return from the slaughter of Chedorlaomer, and of the kings that were with him, at the valley of Shaveh, which is the king's dale. [18] And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. [19] And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: [20] And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.


Seems to me that tithing was before the law. Abram was before the law and he paid tithes to Melchizedek.

All you guys railing against tithe paying are probably not pastors and you probably dont have a clue.

[Coonskinner]

Every person I have personally dealt with who had a beef with tithing also had a problem with authority.