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08-06-2018, 10:13 AM
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Re: One Less Anti-TV vote? WD Presybter leaves UPC
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo
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Yep, it passed.
After numerous tries and being told that it would not come up again, the time before...
And most of the "young guns" who were in the forefront of wanting it passed have now left the org.
And the UPC has overall shifted more conservative.
And the WPF seems to be doing fine.
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08-06-2018, 10:15 AM
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Re: One Less Anti-TV vote? WD Presybter leaves UPC
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Originally Posted by aegsm76
Yep, it passed.
After numerous tries and being told that it would not come up again, the time before...
And most of the "young guns" who were in the forefront of wanting it passed have now left the org.
And the UPC has overall shifted more conservative.
And the WPF seems to be doing fine.
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my campus pastor preached against TV yesterday! I stood and Amen'd him!
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08-06-2018, 10:39 AM
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Re: One Less Anti-TV vote? WD Presybter leaves UPC
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Originally Posted by Amanah
my campus pastor preached against TV yesterday! I stood and Amen'd him!
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He preached against technology?
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08-06-2018, 10:43 AM
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Re: One Less Anti-TV vote? WD Presybter leaves UPC
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He preached against technology?
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He preached on being committed to God, church, prayer, fasting, over worldly entertainment.
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08-06-2018, 04:54 PM
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Re: One Less Anti-TV vote? WD Presybter leaves UPC
I don't have a television. My phone provides access to all the temptation I "need".
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08-06-2018, 05:03 PM
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Re: One Less Anti-TV vote? WD Presybter leaves UPC
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Originally Posted by aegsm76
Yep, it passed.
After numerous tries and being told that it would not come up again, the time before...
And most of the "young guns" who were in the forefront of wanting it passed have now left the org.
And the UPC has overall shifted more conservative.
And the WPF seems to be doing fine.
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It would have never have passed without the older guns.
I honestly can see the logic and it really isn't faulty human logic at all. If we decide to bring this into the home later on, then so be it. But we haven't had one for years and it probably won't change tomorrow, or the next day, or the next day...
Last edited by BuckeyeBukaroo; 08-06-2018 at 05:10 PM.
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08-06-2018, 05:05 PM
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Re: One Less Anti-TV vote? WD Presybter leaves UPC
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Originally Posted by BuckeyeBukaroo
I don't have a television. My phone provides access to all the temptation I "need".
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08-07-2018, 12:56 PM
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Re: One Less Anti-TV vote? WD Presybter leaves UPC
I believe that owning and watching television is a personal conviction. So, I don't condemn people to Hell automatically for just having one. However, it's my opinion that there is very little worth watching on television. Immoral messages and immodesty is nearly everywhere on television. Nearly everything is sexualized. The political lies from both sides blow through the networks like the tumultuous winds of a hurricane. And the violence... it's worse and more pervasive than the sexualization. It is also a great thief of time. Time that could be spent not only in prayer and meditation, but time that could be spent bonding as a family. I used to feel like the Gospel could be promoted on television. I've even argued for it. But I've come to the conclusion that the system would corrupt most who would try and it would all be integrated into the broader menu of Christian broadcasting. Those drawing a hard line on sin would lose viewers, lowering ratings, and would find themselves replaced by shinny happy Joel Osteen types who preach a Gospel that is nothing but fluff and easy believism.
We have a television. However, we use the FireStick. It allows us to stream exactly what we want to watch when we want to watch it, access YouTube, music, and control all content. We don't have cable or watch the network programming.
Frankly, unless one is a shut-in with little interest in the internet who needs some news, occasional entertainment, and a sense of having access to the outside world, network television is a bad deal. Heck, it's still even a bad deal for such a shut-in who has to sift through the garbage.
If you own a television and you enjoy it, having found a groove with avoiding sinful content... I don't condemn you. More power to you. I just think it's more of a liability than an valuable investment. Especially for one who should be focused on things that are above.
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08-07-2018, 07:31 PM
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Re: One Less Anti-TV vote? WD Presybter leaves UPC
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Originally Posted by Amanah
my campus pastor preached against TV yesterday! I stood and Amen'd him!
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Bless your heart!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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08-07-2018, 07:40 PM
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Re: One Less Anti-TV vote? WD Presybter leaves UPC
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Originally Posted by Aquila
I believe that owning and watching television is a personal conviction. So, I don't condemn people to Hell automatically for just having one. However, it's my opinion that there is very little worth watching on television. Immoral messages and immodesty is nearly everywhere on television. Nearly everything is sexualized. The political lies from both sides blow through the networks like the tumultuous winds of a hurricane. And the violence... it's worse and more pervasive than the sexualization. It is also a great thief of time. Time that could be spent not only in prayer and meditation, but time that could be spent bonding as a family. I used to feel like the Gospel could be promoted on television. I've even argued for it. But I've come to the conclusion that the system would corrupt most who would try and it would all be integrated into the broader menu of Christian broadcasting. Those drawing a hard line on sin would lose viewers, lowering ratings, and would find themselves replaced by shinny happy Joel Osteen types who preach a Gospel that is nothing but fluff and easy believism.
We have a television. However, we use the FireStick. It allows us to stream exactly what we want to watch when we want to watch it, access YouTube, music, and control all content. We don't have cable or watch the network programming.
Frankly, unless one is a shut-in with little interest in the internet who needs some news, occasional entertainment, and a sense of having access to the outside world, network television is a bad deal. Heck, it's still even a bad deal for such a shut-in who has to sift through the garbage.
If you own a television and you enjoy it, having found a groove with avoiding sinful content... I don't condemn you. More power to you. I just think it's more of a liability than an valuable investment. Especially for one who should be focused on things that are above.
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