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02-23-2018, 05:18 AM
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This is still that!
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
I’m not silent about anyone’s eternity. Look, you are either teaching truth about salvation or you are not. Jesus said anyone getting in any other way is a thief and a liar. All liars will have their own section in a lake of fire. This isn’t rocket science. This is Bible. No water baptism in Jesus name and no speaking in tongues you are lost. Period. Billy Graham sadly didn’t make it.
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This is correct. This is something you can not misrepresent.
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02-23-2018, 05:26 AM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by JamesGlen
None of us are sure if he made it outside of our personal understanding of Acts 2:38, including you . (as there is even disunity regarding it’s exact interpretation amongst Christianity)
We do wise to trust in Him and His redemptive work, more than our own.
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Good grief!
Cultural Marxism scores another goal.
Bro, you aren’t sure if you are teaching Biblical salvation? Mother Teresa, Billy Graham and Pope John Paul II are in glory? Christianity the great gamble???? You really aren’t thinking this through, because Jesus didn’t agree with what you are proposing. He said the way is narrow and the gate is tight. A small number will find the entrance. Period. Jesus name baptism and speaking in tongues isn’t an option. Billy Graham is smoked.
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02-23-2018, 05:41 AM
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Re: Billy Graham
Praying God’s mercy on Billy Graham?
The guy is deader than fried chicken.
Chris you sure you aren’t looking to go Catholic?
Hey maybe you can go to a Mormon ward and get baptized for him.
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02-23-2018, 06:34 AM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by Originalist
Who says so? Why must it be as you say? We all agree that the way God saves people is "by washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost". Water baptism is a step towards that regeneration of the Spirit. But what if God regenerates people, working around the limitations of the doctrine of the church where they gave their life to Christ? In other words, what if God gives people his Spirit in Baptist churches but withholds tongues because of the unbelief of the Baptist elders? Everyone who goes to Heaven will go there having missed out on some blessing God intended for them to have while they lived on Earth. Why are tongues any different?
What if God considers all baptisms done "for Christ's sake" (or, because one is surrendering their life to him) as having been done "in the name of Jesus Christ? Instead of making declarations like the one of yours I'm responding to here, why don't we just try to work out our own salvation and ministries, acknowledge the great things God does through people like Graham, and let God take care of it all in the end? Sometimes we act like we will be disappointed if we see people like Graham, Wesley or Spurgeon in Heaven.
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That would be like Paul the Apostle acknowledging all the good things done by Hymeaneus, Philitus, and Alexander the Coppersmith.
I can’t stress this enough, there is only one way to God. If “we” don’t have it, then sunny Jim we best work hard to find it. Because Jesus said only a small number find it. No one will go to heaven if they are not baptized in Jesus name and filled with the Holy Ghost with tongues.
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02-23-2018, 06:38 AM
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Re: Billy Graham
One more thing. I won’t be disappointed if I see Graham, Spurgeon or Wesley after my death. I’ll just know I’m in the wrong place.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
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02-23-2018, 06:51 AM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Sean?
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Kinda looks like it.....
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02-23-2018, 06:55 AM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Kinda looks like it.....
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No, Sean is brief and far more insane.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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02-23-2018, 07:07 AM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
I’m not silent about anyone’s eternity. Look, you are either teaching truth about salvation or you are not. Jesus said anyone getting in any other way is a thief and a liar. All liars will have their own section in a lake of fire. This isn’t rocket science. This is Bible. No water baptism in Jesus name and no speaking in tongues you are lost. Period. Billy Graham sadly didn’t make it.
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I agree.
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02-23-2018, 07:58 AM
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Re: Billy Graham
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
That would be like Paul the Apostle acknowledging all the good things done by Hymeaneus, Philitus, and Alexander the Coppersmith.
Those people you cite betrayed Paul. Again, we are not talking about people with the bad fruit like the one's you listed above displayed. We are talking about people whose fruit was that of the Holy Spirit.
I can’t stress this enough, there is only one way to God. If “we” don’t have it, then sunny Jim we best work hard to find it. Because Jesus said only a small number find it. No one will go to heaven if they are not baptized in Jesus name and filled with the Holy Ghost with tongues.
I will leave the tongues part to God. It indeed should be normative to the salvation experience.
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02-23-2018, 09:56 AM
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Location: Phoenix, AZ.: Baptized in the NAME of the Lord Jesus in 1982.
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Re: Billy Graham
His NAME is Jesus!
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Originally Posted by LongBeachCA
ANY Human Being that would ABORT a CHILD regardless of how she got to that point is a MURDERER. I
don't care if she is RAPED TORTURED OR JUST FLAT OUT MAKES A MISTAKE MURDER IS MURDER. ABORTION
is MURDER. The way the murder the baby is enough to make me cringe. I find it sad that murder is allowed
to take place regardless of FAITH IN A GOD or your BELIEF SYSTEM regardless if you are even an atheist killing an
unborn child is murder because that little baby though unborn is ALIVE and KICKING and BREATHING inside the
womb. IT's not a woman's RIGHT to choose MURDER by ABORTION. If I was raped no matter how bad, and there was
a baby growing inside my body I would have that baby, and love that baby, some may wish to give it up for adoption
and not keep it which is understandable some mothers don't even TOUCH IT or HOLD THE BABY they just tell the DR to
take it away I can understand that to. Though I would not chose to do that to my BABY because who ever created
the HUMAN RACE or this UNIVERSE put in it's design of the Human Species a Mother 2 baby nurture bond where when
the baby comes out it knows it's mother, it knows her voice and it feels everything you do by Energy that you produce
in it's life inside of your belly. It can feel the sounds by vibrations and it can sense when you are in danger or when
you are sick or when you are hungry that baby feels everything you feel.
It says in the Bible that NO MURDERS will enter The gates of HEAVEN. but I believe that the Bible is also very clear
on Forgiveness. So I would think by what I Read in the Bible that he can forgive a mother who commits a murder by
aborting her baby. I have never understood abortion there are so many women and couples who cannot have children
and so many foster kids that need good homes but even in the church I know of a wonderful couple who could not
have kids, and they ADOPTED 5 RUSSIAN Babies. It was a wonderful family. GOD REALLY Blessed them he is now a
MILLIONAIRE who builds Million $$$ homes and they live in one while they are building the NEXT as they have it
up for sell and then they move in the new one once it's ready>. But God Blessed that man for adoption those 5 kids.
I believe anyways. He was only working a small JOB before he adopted those 5 Russian Babies. So many want to
ADOPT good people and there are families that ADOPT even when they have too many kids already just to save a
CHILD. I just cannot see abortion being LEGAL in any part of this world. ITs' MURDER. and you will have to give an
account for that MURDER. I could not ABORT a BABY if I was having 10 TWINS even if I was raped by for example
CHARLES MANSON or JEFFERY DOHMMER. I just would not abort or murder a child for any reason. That life that grows
inside you has nothing to do with how you got to the place of being with child so that child should not suffer for it.
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My sentiments, also.
However, my post was a natural sentiment of a more nefarious abortion; that is,
causing a believer to abort "...the precious seed..."! For while the gospel that
saves is being preached by "...holy men of God...", there are those attempting
to pervert the gospel by adding or detracting from its truth.
It would seem that the meaning might have been lost...
Brother Villa
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