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03-17-2017, 08:11 AM
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
The Constitution doesn't bestow rights. However, it recognizes them.
That brings me to a question....
Since the Constitution only "recognizes" God given human rights, are there rights that we have that are not yet recognized by the Constitution?
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03-17-2017, 08:15 AM
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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And that just proves you're clueless about what socialism really is, if that's what you think it amounts to.  |
Democratic socialism is so terrible... My friends and family in Canada, and my love's friends in Europe, are just so, so, so bad off. Man, I just don't know what they're going to do! LOL
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03-17-2017, 09:37 AM
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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Democratic socialism is so terrible... My friends and family in Canada, and my love's friends in Europe, are just so, so, so bad off. Man, I just don't know what they're going to do! LOL
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That is not socialism. The government does not own the means of production.
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03-17-2017, 09:38 AM
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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Originally Posted by Aquila
The Constitution doesn't bestow rights. However, it recognizes them.
That brings me to a question....
Since the Constitution only "recognizes" God given human rights, are there rights that we have that are not yet recognized by the Constitution?
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Like having someone else pay for your healthcare?
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03-17-2017, 09:44 AM
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
Trump just announced that people are getting on board with his health care plan and they are predicting premiums will drop by 10% very quickly
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03-17-2017, 10:25 AM
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Democratic socialism is so terrible... My friends and family in Canada, and my love's friends in Europe, are just so, so, so bad off. Man, I just don't know what they're going to do! LOL
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My companies parent company is in Spain. With divisions in Hungary, France and Turkey.
Any of the people that I work with would be happy to be a US citizen.
And Canada.
Yep, I have relatives there and from there.
Take the US out of the equation and their lives would be dramatically different, in a worse way.
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03-17-2017, 10:48 AM
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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Trump just announced that people are getting on board with his health care plan and they are predicting premiums will drop by 10% very quickly
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I don't believe it, sorry.
This GOP bill is obamacare lite. There's a reason Trump and Ryan had it under lock and key and refused to allow anyone to read it. It's a terrible bill, certainly not much of an improvement over bummercare.
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03-17-2017, 12:17 PM
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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My companies parent company is in Spain. With divisions in Hungary, France and Turkey.
Any of the people that I work with would be happy to be a US citizen.
And Canada.
Yep, I have relatives there and from there.
Take the US out of the equation and their lives would be dramatically different, in a worse way.
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Oh, I don't doubt there are benefits to being an American. As of right now though, family and those I know in Canada wouldn't come to America if you paid them. And if you ask them if they'd rather have America's healthcare system (including the Obamacare abomination) they will just laugh at you. lol
And if you're an American traveler, you can almost feel the tension in the air because we've become rather unpopular.
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03-17-2017, 12:21 PM
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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That is not socialism. The government does not own the means of production.
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BINGO!
They are what is known as Social Democracies. Democratic Socialism isn't Marxist Socialism as most know it.
So, why do you keep calling Democratic Socialists, "Socialists"??? lol
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03-17-2017, 01:21 PM
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Re: Healthcare is not a right
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BINGO!
They are what is known as Social Democracies. Democratic Socialism isn't Marxist Socialism as most know it.
So, why do you keep calling Democratic Socialists, "Socialists"??? lol
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I have made it clear that the nations of western Europe are not true socialists, but are free market economies with giant welfare states that the people are willing to yield up to 80% of their income to support. But they have same effect as socialism because people become less and less productive.
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