Perry Stone on 2016 election

[Originalist]

THIS JUST IN FROM GERMANY! An insider in the GOP has told a close friend that the plan at the Republican Convention is to ensure that Trump and Cruz does not get on the first ballot, and the "establishment" are in closed door discussions to get Paul Ryan to run as President and Jeb Bush as Vice President (That's right - Jeb who got 5% of the vote in the primaries and dropped out). There is a detailed plan to stop Trump and Cruz as they are considered "rebels" and are a threat to the "good old boys club" that has controlled Washington politics. If this occurs, it is the death nail to democratic style elections, proving to the people that the individual citizen's vote means nothing. The people in different states often vote a specific law or ban on something, yet the Supreme Court votes against the will of the people, legalizing abominations! If this political coup occurs, not only could there be internal and external fighting leading to a second American Revolution, but a third political party will arise, and this may have been predicted in an ancient writing (I am researching) related to the Roman Empire of a vision of a three headed Eagle (since America's emblem is an eagle and we have parallels of the Imperial Roman Empire). I have talked to NO American who now trust the government, and obviously the system is totally out of touch with the grass roots! Also a big rally is planned at the state house, in the capitol of N.C. (Raleigh) Monday April 11th at noon to expose and reject the unbelievable city ordinance passed by the city council in Charlotte. Insiders say that Obama has threatened to cut off aid to N.C. if the governor rejects the new ordinance that was passed. If we don't stand up RIGHT NOW we will be crushed with laws and endure the legalization of perversion, as the liberals attempt to turn our children into mini-perverts for their own sick pleasure.
PLEASE RE-POST THIS NOW and I want everyone to see this strategy and pray for the good people in Charlotte, N.C. who are having perverts shove abominable laws in their face. Don't forget the Prophetic Summit next week at Omega Center International.

[n david]

Hahahaha. Perry Stone??

Dude is a fraud and a con man.

I wish, when this doesn't happen, people would put him out of business and stop subscribing to his false prophecies.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by n david

Hahahaha. Perry Stone??

Dude is a fraud and a con man.

I wish, when this doesn't happen, people would put him out of business and stop subscribing to his false prophecies.

I do not subscribe to his pre-trib view, but I know him personally. He is not a con man.

The establishment is using Cruz and will dispose of him at the convention. Maybe then you will believe.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Did Perry Stone ever get a vision on water baptism in Jesus name?

[TJJJ]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Did Perry Stone ever get a vision on water baptism in Jesus name?

"Snicker snicker!"

No he is too busy forth telling things to happen in politics to worry about little things like seeing the New Birth Message!

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by TJJJ

"Snicker snicker!"

No he is too busy forth telling things to happen in politics to worry about little things like seeing the New Birth Message!

Actually, I do not believe he claimed this to be a prophecy.

Sometimes I wonder if we Oneness folk are capable of reading something from a non-Apostolic writer without making boastful comments on how superior we are to them concerning the new birth. It drips of pride and arrogance.

[LOVE JESUS]

Originally Posted by n david

Hahahaha. Perry Stone??

Dude is a fraud and a con man.

I wish, when this doesn't happen, people would put him out of business and stop subscribing to his false prophecies.

What has he done or said that would make him a fraud and a con man?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Actually, I do not believe he claimed this to be a prophecy.

Sometimes I wonder if we Oneness folk are capable of reading something from a non-Apostolic writer without making boastful comments on how superior we are to them concerning the new birth. It drips of pride and arrogance.

Excuse me my brother, but there was nothing in the way of boasting in my post. I am dead serious, these people who get dreams, visions, and trances concerning everything but truth do beg the question. Cornelius got vision, it was soteriological. Peter gets a vision, it was soteriological. We must consider the source, if we don't we are as guilty as the one who brings forth their prophecy of impending doom. Perry Stone is so wrong on so many levels, and therefore for us not to consider these things for ourselves and our children is unwise on our part. Everyone from the parking lot prophet who is reading people's mail while asking them for an offering, to the Four Blood Mooness of Mark Biltz leads people off into a ditch. This doesn't help anyone, but in fact helps to cause doubt, kill faith, and inevitably make people leery when they hear true prophecy. I knew Perry Stone's ministry back in the late 80s, and he said things which never came to be. The Bible is clear that we are not to consider those people as to be speaking from God. The Prophet Micaiah Warns Ahab that Ahab will die. Ahab has Micaiah incarcerated and promises him that he will be dealt with when Ahab returns from battle. Micaiah tells Ahab that if Ahab returns, then it would prove that Micaiah is no prophet. My friend and my brother, I must say that if everything that says Lord, Lord, is to be embraced as being God led, then only ditches await our steps.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Excuse me my brother, but there was nothing in the way of boasting in my post. I am dead serious, these people who get dreams, visions, and trances concerning everything but truth do beg the question. Cornelius got vision, it was soteriological. Peter gets a vision, it was soteriological. We must consider the source, if we don't we are as guilty as the one who brings forth their prophecy of impending doom. Perry Stone is so wrong on so many levels, and therefore for us not to consider these things for ourselves and our children is unwise on our part. Everyone from the parking lot prophet who is reading people's mail while asking them for an offering, to the Four Blood Mooness of Mark Biltz leads people off into a ditch. This doesn't help anyone, but in fact helps to cause doubt, kill faith, and inevitably make people leery when they hear true prophecy. I knew Perry Stone's ministry back in the late 80s, and he said things which never came to be. The Bible is clear that we are not to consider those people as to be speaking from God. The Prophet Micaiah Warns Ahab that Ahab will die. Ahab has Micaiah incarcerated and promises him that he will be dealt with when Ahab returns from battle. Micaiah tells Ahab that if Ahab returns, then it would prove that Micaiah is no prophet. My friend and my brother, I must say that if everything that says Lord, Lord, is to be embraced as being God led, then only ditches await our steps.

Actually I was not referring to you.

This particular post of Stone was not claimed by him to be a prophecy.

I agree he is a bit sensational at times, but in his personal life he demonstrates a humble, giving spirit.

But I stand by my comment. We act like jerks towards Trinitarians at times.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Actually I was not referring to you.

This particular post of Stone was not claimed by him to be a prophecy.

I agree he is a bit sensational at times, but in his personal life he demonstrates a humble, giving spirit.

But I stand by my comment. We act like jerks towards Trinitarians at times.

I understand what you are saying, but I know personally Muslims, Rabbinical Jewish leadership, Mormons, and Hindus who have a humble and personal givingness. While at times they may present truths, and be right in some comments, and be great friends, loving towards us and our families. Does not mean that they have illuminated visions which we should pay attention. Michelle Nostradamus, William Marion Branham, Mother Shipton, and Edgar Cayce have made predictions, had visions, and dreamed dreams, but they tend to lead people away from Biblical truth.

As far as the comment on Apostolics being jerks to Trinitarians. I once had Rabbi Finkelstein tell me that Jesus and Paul (especially Paul) were jerks to the first century A.D. Jewry. If my wife, daughters, and I walk into a Trinitarian meeting and they know what we believe, we know what to expect. Hey, we been there, we rode that rodeo. They were jerks. But, it is to be expected. If I go to a Dispensationalists meeting on prophecy, and they know what I believe, then I should expect to be filleted open. Do I go wee wee wee all the way home? I should hope not. One thing about religion we should keep in mind. They are all teamed, they have zealots, and zealots get zealous and passionate. It you get hit, suck it up and move on. If you make a friend then praise Jesus because you may teach him something. Yet, you might catch more blows then you expected than friends. One God people need to build on One God, not looking for a cup of sugar over at McTrinitarian's house. If the blind follow the blind they both fall into a ditch.