"For This Cause" A Discussion About Angelic Hair

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by ILG

If it's actual disobedience, sure. But God doesn't play games where he puts something so important in an obscure place without really saying what he means and then says "I'm going to get you for that!" When something is sin, God is plain.

ILG, what do you think "for this cause" means in this passage?

What do you think "because of the angels" means?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I see the value of what you are saying. We seem to excel with rules, but struggle with principles sometimes.

Exactly. I think God would much prefer the act of submission over obedience to a preacher over something that the scripture doesn't plainly say.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

It dishonors God and her husband.

Paul said it was a shame.

I feel it identifies one with our enemy.

Hmm.. I wonder how this logic applies to a single young lady whose parents aren't saved?

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Hmm.. I wonder how this logic applies to a single young lady whose parents aren't saved?

She decided for herself and goes to a church that she is willing to submit to!

Blessings, Rhoni

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Hmm.. I wonder how this logic applies to a single young lady whose parents aren't saved?

Okay Daniel, take your cute little one liner and expand on it.

What do you think "for this cause" and "because of the angels" means?

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

ILG, what do you think "for this cause" means in this passage?

What do you think "because of the angels" means?

I think I pretty well agree with your interpretation of it, minus the teaching about uncut hair. I do tend to hold to the view that this is about submission to a woman's husband and that there is an order of creation that needs to be respected. I believe this to be a powerful and beneficial thing for women and not a negative thing as some seem to think that proponents of "long hair" rather than "uncut" think. The difference is in an understanding of what the biblical passages mean rather than a rebellion. A woman cutting her hair CAN be rebellion, I think, if she believes in uncut hair. But for those who understand the passages differently it is more a difference of opinion.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I see the value of what you are saying. We seem to excel with rules, but struggle with principles sometimes.

It CAN be an issue, and HAs in some cases. It's like forgetting the whole purpose behind the admonition.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Okay Daniel, take your cute little one liner and expand on it.

What do you think "for this cause" and "because of the angels" means?

This issue can be debated a million ways ... it's one of scriptures we don't seem to have THE ANSWER to .... but to make a doctrine out of it is THEOLOGICALLY IRRESPONSIBLE ... whether it be ANGELIC HAIR or UNCUT HAIR.

when faced w/ a scripture we do not understand we must use others that are simpler to make sense of it ....

Scripture is clear on fornication, lying, cheating, stealing ...why? Because there is witness ....

This passage is clearly about the relationship between husband and wife ... there is also a cultural context .... which has also been discussed ....

there is no clear mandate about not cutting hair .... or ... nor can we try to devise one .... anything else is adding to the Word ... for which there are clear consequences.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by mfblume

It CAN be an isuse, and HAs in some cases. It's like forgetting the whole purpose behind the admonition.

I totally agree. It's a cart before the horse thing.

[Sacerdotal]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

The guys who used to paddle me in the office when I got in fights at school?

I have a suspicion that the school principle is the only principles some people believe in. To not realize the bible is full of principles that cover those areas not distinctly spelled out in the bible is to believe the bible is inferior.

Principles. Don't leave home without them.