Question about Acts 2:38: What about the martyrs?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

my meaning was that "All Muslims are lost" is reflected in government policy, and is also the same opinion held by a majority of Americans. I have nothing to teach; i merely make the observation that one reaps what they sew. "Muslims are lost" is not a fact, it is an opinion; that you are entitled to, that comes with consequences. The government is merely manifesting your widely held opinion, even if it is also helping to shape it. You get the government you deserve. You think Muslims are lost? Then you get government that creates ISIS; funds it, and keeps it supplied with arms, while your children guard their poppy fields. "Muslims are lost" is where the "separation" comes from.

Listen, I get all the Edward Bernays' mind science of manipulation through popular media. Before there ever was a United States of America, before the British or Americans started to move on Afghanistan heroin trade or MKUltra became televised, Muslims were lost. Muslims are lost because they followed a false prophet. That's as simple as it gets.

But allow me to tell you that your form of false Christian dripping love of "all are saved, who knows whose lost" churchanity has made this country what it is today. A nicer than Jesus Christianity that through its attempt to be kinder, nicer, more huggable, they have allowed every sort of filth to walk through the doors and call itself Christ like. No one to blame but ourselves.

Hindus are lost, we don't have Hindu terrorist climbing our trees.

Trinitarians are lost, we don't have Trinitarian terrorist banging down our doors.

Shintos are lost, we don't have a Shinto terrorist cell group waiting to take over Manhattan.

Shazeep, take the red pill.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Sorry, you cannot have it both ways. Jesus told us to teach his word and warn the sinner of his way. You invalidate all that.



How blind can we be when people obey the command to warn sinners of God's word on issues and we call it hate and superiority? It's the same confusion people use when they say the bible is homophobic and hateful because it condemns homosexuality. You done got the current spirit of the world!



Again you judge.

Again you confuse repeating the word with creating a judgment call.



Again, God made the call. I only said what he did. Classic case of killing the messenger since something inside does not like the message of the cross.

You said it all when you compared salvation by works with incest.

i am plainly warning you that you are lost, Mike, and using Scripture to preach to you the error of your ways. How is that working for you? Why do you imagine that your efforts are more appreciated? Talk is cheap. Seek better interpretations, and apply them to yourself. Preaching Christ while selling death has negated your message, and your real premises are revealed in your specious judgements of those you have never met, with all due respect. You might seek "neither do I condemn you."

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Why laugh, how are firearms a problem? Are keyboards a problem because YOU misspell words?

guns are not the problem; that we are the world's big brother, and also the world's largest arms dealers might be.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You did, because you said they were not "all" lost, therefore it can only be taken that you believe that "some" Muslims are saved.




If they follow the Quran, they are also admonished to follow the Hadiths, therefore they are following another Gospel, another Jesus, and therefore don't share in any Christian salvation.

Hence they are lost

you also seem to have found another Gospel, and dispute "Judge not, lest you be judged," ergo you are also lost. And, having the superior doctrine, the onus will be the more heavily upon you.

[shazeep]

There are plenty of indicators to value whether or not any of this might apply to one, individually. If you are producing good fruit, borders increasing, children flourishing, elders dying in their sleep, at peace with your neighbors, and running a surplus, then by all means continue contesting what i am saying.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Listen, I get all the Edward Bernays' mind science of manipulation through popular media. Before there ever was a United States of America, before the British or Americans started to move on Afghanistan heroin trade or MKUltra became televised, Muslims were lost. Muslims are lost because they followed a false prophet. That's as simple as it gets.

But allow me to tell you that your form of false Christian dripping love of "all are saved, who knows whose lost" churchanity has made this country what it is today. A nicer than Jesus Christianity that through its attempt to be kinder, nicer, more huggable, they have allowed every sort of filth to walk through the doors and call itself Christ like. No one to blame but ourselves.

Hindus are lost, we don't have Hindu terrorist climbing our trees.

Trinitarians are lost, we don't have Trinitarian terrorist banging down our doors.

Shintos are lost, we don't have a Shinto terrorist cell group waiting to take over Manhattan.

Shazeep, take the red pill.

well, you made ISIS; perhaps you are not equipped to know what filth really is. So, ISIS is terrorizing you, are they? Came and grabbed your sons already, did they? See why whores and tax collectors might have something to show you, then.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

guns are not the problem; that we are the world's big brother, and also the world's largest arms dealers might be.

That is like saying that because Asia produces the most keyboards they are responsible for all the misspelled words in the world?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

well, you made ISIS; perhaps you are not equipped to know what filth really is. So, ISIS is terrorizing you, are they? Came and grabbed your sons already, did they? See why whores and tax collectors might have something to show you, then.

No, I didn't make ISIS.

Muslims were lost way before there was ever a UNITED STATES or Great Britain. Face it, what you are posting is total foolishness, and you know it.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by shazeep

you also seem to have found another Gospel, and dispute "Judge not, lest you be judged," ergo you are also lost. And, having the superior doctrine, the onus will be the more heavily upon you.

You seem to not be able to read. You also fail to quote the scripture in its entirety. Jesus goes on to say that you shouldn't judge if you are in the same sin, have the same issues, hence being the beam, because of hypocrisy. Therefore you will not be able to judge correctly to remove a problem from an erring brother who has a "speck" in his eye. Muslims are not following Jesus Christ, they follow the Hadiths or sayings of the Mohammad. Therefore they are lost. The judgement there is logical, since Jesus said He was the only way, not a way. Pretty simple.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i am plainly warning you that you are lost, Mike, and using Scripture to preach to you the error of your ways. How is that working for you? Why do you imagine that your efforts are more appreciated? Talk is cheap. Seek better interpretations, and apply them to yourself. Preaching Christ while selling death has negated your message, and your real premises are revealed in your specious judgements of those you have never met, with all due respect. You might seek "neither do I condemn you."

I haven't condemned.

Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Do you believe they're condemned already because they don't believe? You nullify these words.