Islam: A Religion of Lies...

[Evang.Benincasa]

[QUOTE=Walks_in_islam;1354943]Lemme check my list. OH yeah...here's a random one!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...r-photography/

Random...right back at you.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

UPCers seem to target younger kids somehow. They don't get a chance to grow up.

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[Dalton]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

You should be

"Sister your husband drives, your job is to sit in the passenger seat and tell him how to drive."

That's your "sir".

Still laughing chuck? I am.

Lol, I am unsure of whether I am supposed to be offended at that or not?

To be honest I have no clue what your talking about or in reference to lol. What is that quote from?

On a side note, I knew a chuck once, dude had a colostomy bag.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Walks in Islam, this is from their website.....

CHURCH BELIEFS

We believe…

"In the one eternal God who is the Creator of all things. He exists in three Persons: God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. He is totally loving and completely holy."

I mean you can find information on Bad Apostolic Pentecostals, so what is your disconnect? Do you know that not everything that is a "tongue talker" is an Apostolic or a UPCer? Are you drinking the water from your wudu? Or are you just absolutely clueless on the original point I was trying to make with shazeep? He and I was posting concerning heinous Church history, which Apostolic Pentecost has never launched a Crusade against anyone with knights and swords, Ruling bishops over countries, torturers, racks, and hatchets. Then you come in and offer not UPCI bad behavior, not Apostolic Pentecostal bad behavior, but one case with a Assembly of God situation with a Russian child, and when I post about " So, WIA, you going to bring up African Charismatics next who practice witchcraft?" You reply "I'll stick with tongue-talkers right in the good old US of A." Then you post on some run of the mill Trinitarian Pentecostal group in Australia? Walks, you then post to me that "If you are tongue-talking apostolics and they are tongue-talking apostolics then you are the same to me and you are the same to the rest of the planet." But the article wasn't about tongue talking Apostolics, but your point is that all tongue talkers are the same? So, that would apply to you as Muslim. You can't defend Islam, because your stabbing and slabbing comrades outweigh anything you can Google concerning the United Pentecostal Church International or the Apostolic Movement of One God Jesus name folks. Which you failed to do. So, you feel the logic of sameness with all Pentecostals are the same as all Christianity, High Church the same as Low Church, so on and so on. Then you missed what I was posting to shazeep. In saying that, then you are in the quandary, Apostolic movement has never taken over countries, through conquest of sword and beheading those refuse conversion. Mocking of the Apostolic movement, or drawing disparaging cartoons of their prophets, teachers, apostles or Jesus Himself never caused them to hack off hands or heads.

Your religion isn't one of non-retaliation, or peace seeking. While Allah is merciful and all benevolent, you will find that many of his adherents aren't merciful and benevolent, but violent.

Do the math, calculate the history of the Islamic invading hordes across the world during the time of Islamic conquest, and go through history of their bad behavior to our present, and put it up against what you Google on Pentecostals...African Witches, Robert Tilton and all.


Really think about that while having jumu'ah

Walks came here trying to pigeonhole all of Christianity into the Catholicism compartment. Now, having lost that argument, he is trying to pigeonhole all Pentecostals into the UPCI or the Apostolic Movement of One God Jesus name folks into the same compartment. Having lost that argument.....

All he has managed to do is prove that he hates the infidels.

And really good point on CAIR, as we know it's history:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

The point is, CAIR is all about public relations, so what would you expect them to say? Allahu Akbar, hooray for our team?

Another contention with Islam, unlike ANY sect of Christianity, is found a form of dissimulation called "Taqiyya". In the Sunni, it is called "idtirar".

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Dalton

Lol, I am unsure of whether I am supposed to be offended at that or not?

To be honest I have no clue what your talking about or in reference to lol. What is that quote from?

On a side note, I knew a chuck once, dude had a colostomy bag.

He is trying to tell you that I am not a sir.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Dalton

Lol, I am unsure of whether I am supposed to be offended at that or not?

To be honest I have no clue what your talking about or in reference to lol. What is that quote from?

On a side note, I knew a chuck once, dude had a colostomy bag.

Dalton in your current avatar, do you think Mr T has too much synthol in his right bicep?

The item about a woman being driven by her husband was a conversation between PO and myself. I don't know why WalkIslam made mention of it to you.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

LOL! If I get to drive, it's only because my husband is sick and needs to go to the doctor - happened only once or twice.

I will ask, "Can I drive?" His response, "Am I getting in this vehicle?" LOL!

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sister your husband drives your job is to sit in the passenger seat and tell him how to drive.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

So I've been told. lol

I guess Walks In I slam sees this as an indictment against Christianity.

I just see it as a man knowing that whether she is in the driver's seat, passenger seat, or back seat, she is still driving.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Walks came here trying to pigeonhole all of Christianity into the Catholicism compartment. Now, having lost that argument, he is trying to pigeonhole all Pentecostals into the UPCI or the Apostolic Movement of One God Jesus name folks into the same compartment. Having lost that argument.....

I would tend to believe that he is trying to make a case that not every Muslim interprets Quran, Hadiths, and the religion's creator Muhammad's words in the same manner. So, like others forms of Christianity sees things differently which sometimes produces bad results, and forms of Islam can be viewed the same way. Therefore a broad brush sweep of Islam cannot make them all child marrying, wife beating, female circumcising, honor killing, bomb blasting Jihadists. It has more to do with human nature than religion, and men will modify the religion to suit their needs. Take for example the American Islam of Mormonism. Same flawed thinking, applied to modifications of existent religions already available to the creator of the religion. Those flawed understandings get worse from their foundation on up, and you end up with horrible stories like "Under the Banner of Heaven," or a group like the Fundamentalist LDS. I personally know people who are Quran only believers, who totally disagree with the Hadiths, and that is how THEY reconcile problems within their religion. Yet, they are viewed as innovators, and are on the fringe of Islam. There are also Torah only Jews, and Book of Mormon only Mormons, they all discard the later writings of their religions to reconcile the problems those religions have through their extra books.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

All he has managed to do is prove that he hates the infidels.

He's Steve Winter?

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

And really good point on CAIR, as we know it's history:

http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Another contention with Islam, unlike ANY sect of Christianity, is found a form of dissimulation called "Taqiyya". In the Sunni, it is called "idtirar".

Isn't that what Jehovah Witnesses do?

[Dalton]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

He is trying to tell you that I am not a sir.

Oh lolol that does make more sense 😃 whoops no offense meant just trotting through makin assumptions... You know, the usual lol

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

The point is this, the so called Christian history of "Little Shop of Horrors" has nothing to do with Apostolic Pentecostals. If we were Roman Catholics, and Presbyterians then you would have some artillery. But, you don't.

Have a splendid evening.

this strikes me as myopic also--we are directly descended from them, recognize Easter (for Christ's sake already), follow their model of pastorship, etc...i mean, i was raised dissing the RCC and Muslims, myself; but the hypocrisy just finally got to me. I went to see for myself, in both cases, and both povs were false in the end--not because you are incorrect about the religion per se, but because the religion is ultimately separate from the hearts that practice it.

Understand that i am not looking for artillery. I can't say that you, or Ferd, or Mr Eastman, et al, are wrong. But i can say that you have ceased to rep Christ. This is not "pick up your cross," it is a witch hunt.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Dalton in your current avatar, do you think Mr T has too much synthol in his right bicep?

The item about a woman being driven by her husband was a conversation between PO and myself. I don't know why WalkIslam made mention of it to you.


I guess Walks In I slam sees this as an indictment against Christianity.

I just see it as a man knowing that whether she is in the driver's seat, passenger seat, or back seat, she is still driving.

LOL! That isn't really true in my case. If I say turn right, he turns left. Stubborn cowboy.