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03-19-2014, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Now you're calling me a liar? What on earth is wrong with you? I recommended that Jacob call an attorney and get advice in my post--so that he wouldn't end up being a ward of the state in his attempt to simply move out.
What demands am I not following? Jacob did NOT say that he was referring to abuse in any of his original posts. For your information, I didn't read every post on this thread before I responded. I guess I will have to go back and read NOW to see what I missed.
I didn't attack you for your position; you attacked JD for his and then you attacked me for backing him up. You're on the attack; others are on the defense. Get it straight.
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 Where did I call you a liar? Show me, please.
It does help to actually read posts before responding. That explains why you didn't report it. I'm positive, from your attacks against me, you would've been with JD in reporting the claim had you read the posts above your first reply.
Yes, you did attack my position, but it's semantics, really.
How I'd respond online vs how I'd respond in person are two different things. This isn't my first rodeo. Don't attack me for my position on this case.
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03-19-2014, 11:37 PM
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That's your cop out? His first post offered information to anyone who PM'd him. Not many posts after, before your first post, JD said he should get law enforcement involved.
I would think, what with your demands and attacks against me, that you would have contacted the authorities.
Again, why didn't you practice what you're preaching?
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BECAUSE, n_david, I didn't scroll down far enough to read these posts, before I replied to the thread. Are you done with calling me a liar and implying that I'm a hypocrite now, or are you going to keep it up anyway? If I had read them, I would have alluded to them in my first post. If you read MY posts, you will see that I didn't reference abuse whatsoever; just the legality of moving out without your parents' permission.
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That sounds like a very good decision then. Reply PM sent.
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I want to publicly urge you to get law enforcement involved in your situation!
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
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03-19-2014, 11:40 PM
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I took his offer only AFTER his responses to me in this thread raised a red flag.
Why did it raise a red flag?
Go back and read the posts between Jacob and I.
You KNOW there was nothing creepy or even remotely stalker-ish about doing what I did.
If more people would report XXXX, then there would be less victims.
Seriously,
I am really shocked as to why any rational adult would criticize what I did, given the information I had received from the victim.
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Yes it is creepy for you to get information about someone without their consent. Period.
Why were you joking, twice, using the line from SNL if it was raising red flags? If you were so concerned at the outset, why joke around like that?
And as I posted to MissB, how one responds to an online claim is, or should be, different than how one replies to a personal claim.
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03-19-2014, 11:40 PM
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Re: I need help!!!
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Originally Posted by n david
 Where did I call you a liar? Show me, please.
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Originally Posted by n david
Before your first post, JD suggested to get law enforcement involved. Or did you miss that?
The posts were there. You can't claim what you're trying to claim. Sorry.
Don't attack me for my position when you don't even follow your own demands.
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It does help to actually read posts before responding. That explains why you didn't report it. I'm positive, from your attacks against me, you would've been with JD in reporting the claim had you read the posts above your first reply.
Yes, you did attack my position, but it's semantics, really.
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You attacked; I defended my position. You posted in opposition to both JD and my posts first. That means we're on the defense...or don't you watch sports?
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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03-19-2014, 11:41 PM
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Re: I need help!!!
David, it sure seems like you like to pick fights... just sayin. You came on here accusing JD of doing something he shouldn't have, and Miss B was just explaining why she chose to err on the side of safety.
Honestly.. its okay if you are the lone ranger, and think JD shouldn't have done what he did. We're all entitled to our opinions, regardless of whether they turn out to be right, or wrong.
In the end, I'll stand with JD, because based on whatever info he got from Jacob, he felt a need to do something. Maybe it was overreaction, and maybe not. How will we ever know for sure?
I've seen you pick the same fights with PO. Maybe you just like this kind of bickering, I don't know. But really, it is just your opinion here, and others with theirs. What can you expect from an online forum?
For me, I'm going to continue to pray for Jacob. I really will be praying that the Lord uses this whole situation to bring about good in his life.
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03-19-2014, 11:41 PM
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Re: I need help!!!
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Originally Posted by JacobSauceda
If I tell them, they legally have to tell the police about what happens.
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n david, if a kid tells you this, you don't think this cause for concern or alarm?
Let's also put his post into context.
This was posted in a thread entitled, "I Need Help".
n david, you don't have to be, but I am my brother's keeper.
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03-19-2014, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
David, it sure seems like you like to pick fights... just sayin. You came on here accusing JD of doing something he shouldn't have, and Miss B was just explaining why she chose to err on the side of safety.
Honestly.. its okay if you are the lone ranger, and think JD shouldn't have done what he did. We're all entitled to our opinions, regardless of whether they turn out to be right, or wrong.
In the end, I'll stand with JD, because based on whatever info he got from Jacob, he felt a need to do something. Maybe it was overreaction, and maybe not. How will we ever know for sure?
I've seen you pick the same fights with PO. Maybe you just like this kind of bickering, I don't know. But really, it is just your opinion here, and others with theirs. What can you expect from an online forum?
For me, I'm going to continue to pray for Jacob. I really will be praying that the Lord uses this whole situation to bring about good in his life.
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
n david, if a kid tells you this, you don't think this cause for concern or alarm?
Let's also put his post into context.
This was posted in a thread entitled, "I Need Help".
n david, you don't have to be, but I am my brother's keeper.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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03-19-2014, 11:43 PM
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Re: I need help!!!
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Originally Posted by n david
Yes it is creepy for you to get information about someone without their consent. Period.
Why were you joking, twice, using the line from SNL if it was raising red flags? If you were so concerned at the outset, why joke around like that?
And as I posted to MissB, how one responds to an online claim is, or should be, different than how one replies to a personal claim.
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Anyone who posts on an internet forum using their real name and then reveals what he revealed to me is indeed looking for my help, even if it is subconsciously.
I didn't snoop through his trash or anything like that.
I knew his name.
He made a serious allegation.
It needed to be investigated.
I made sure that I had all the information I could gather so that this 16 year old kid can get the help he needs.
I was joking around, but once I realized he was serious I stopped the joke.
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03-19-2014, 11:45 PM
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You attacked; I defended my position. You posted in opposition to both JD and my posts first. That means we're on the defense...or don't you watch sports?
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The only response to you was that you were wrong about JD being legally obligated. That wasn't an attack, that was correcting your error.
I only attacked JD. Not you. You made a claim that was factually incorrect and I simply made a statement about it.
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03-19-2014, 11:46 PM
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Re: I need help!!!
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Originally Posted by n david
The only response to you was that you were wrong about JD being legally obligated. That wasn't an attack, that was correcting your error.
I only attacked JD. Not you. You made a claim that was factually incorrect and I simply made a statement about it.
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Okay, n_david. I'm truly no longer interested in what you have to say on this thread. IMO, JD did the right thing, and I hope everything works out good for Jacob.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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