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Old 10-03-2013, 07:23 PM
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Wow, them southern white males seem to have succeeding in becoming a majority in just about every district outside the big metro areas all across the country...

I heard a rumor that if Obumer has to replace Holder he's gonna appoint Dedicated Mind to replace him. Another pea in the pod!

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Old 10-03-2013, 08:04 PM
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DM, The Democrats and the MSM are using the same terminology they use when referencing Islamic extremists. I hope you don't think we are not ignorant as to their rhetoric. It is simply hate. But I get that as they tried to take God out of their platform at the Democratic Convention. Are you an atheist?

I don't know why you would purposely try to fan the flames of unrest that is already rising up in this country.

And I don't know why you would call Constitutional Conservatives, like myself, terrorists.
i don't see how you don't see the link, republicans have taken the federal government hostage and are threatening economic disaster if democrats don't defund policies that were passed legislatively, upheld by the supreme court and ratified by a national election. republicans are using unconventional means to effect policy that wasn't enacted through traditional constitutional procedures. republicans are causing hardship to federal workers and threatening hardship to millions of americans as the means to achieve their policy goals. that is unamerican and deserves the label of political and economic terrorism. how else can you explain the republicans means of achieving their objective?
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:18 PM
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Comrade Dedicated Mind is still reading from the script. Moscow gave him strict orders not to deviate from it.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:30 PM
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i don't see how you don't see the link, republicans have taken the federal government hostage and are threatening economic disaster if democrats don't defund policies that were passed legislatively, upheld by the supreme court and ratified by a national election. republicans are using unconventional means to effect policy that wasn't enacted through traditional constitutional procedures. republicans are causing hardship to federal workers and threatening hardship to millions of americans as the means to achieve their policy goals. that is unamerican and deserves the label of political and economic terrorism. how else can you explain the republicans means of achieving their objective?
we're all "held hostage" to one party or the other when they gain a majority control...that's how we got this mess to begin with under Obama's first watch
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:30 PM
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Poor conservative Southern Fox-viewing Republicans are becoming a minority and are resorting to "Help me! I am being repressed!" How pathetic.
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Poor conservative Southern Fox-viewing Republicans are becoming a minority and are resorting to "Help me! I am being repressed!" How pathetic.

Changing handles won't help you.
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i don't see how you don't see the link, republicans have taken the federal government hostage and are threatening economic disaster if democrats don't defund policies that were passed legislatively, upheld by the supreme court and ratified by a national election. republicans are using unconventional means to effect policy that wasn't enacted through traditional constitutional procedures. republicans are causing hardship to federal workers and threatening hardship to millions of americans as the means to achieve their policy goals. that is unamerican and deserves the label of political and economic terrorism. how else can you explain the republicans means of achieving their objective?
You're unAmerican. I really wish we could send you to Cuba for a year. As one exile told me concerning your type, "It's easy to be a communist in America. Send these American communist wanna be's to Cuba for a year. Then let's see how they think."
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Old 10-03-2013, 09:07 PM
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I thank God that I'm not southern white man....
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Old 10-03-2013, 10:47 PM
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i don't see how you don't see the link, republicans have taken the federal government hostage and are threatening economic disaster if democrats don't defund policies that were passed legislatively, upheld by the supreme court and ratified by a national election. republicans are using unconventional means to effect policy that wasn't enacted through traditional constitutional procedures. republicans are causing hardship to federal workers and threatening hardship to millions of Americans as the means to achieve their policy goals. that is Un-American and deserves the label of political and economic terrorism. how else can you explain the republicans means of achieving their objective?
I understand what has happened in the medical industry. Our medicine is distinctly different and more expensive per capita than much of the rest of the industrialized world. In our healthcare system, providers are incentivized to do the wrong thing, i.e., surgeons are not paid for their outcomes, they are paid for how many surgeries they perform. Patients with poor outcomes can then become profit centers, because they will end up requiring additional care.

There are also very strong incentives to produce biased research. We all know medical research has a history of bias, i.e. the tobacco industry, the pharmaceutical companies, the medical device companies, etc.

Because of these factors, I personally do not believe the healthcare industry can reform itself. It will take some regulatory guidance simply because the medical inflation is unsustainable in this country.

I believe that the government is inherently less efficient than business, and while it might a good idea and even necessary for parameters to be set by the government, that supervision needs to be minimal and relegated to the states as much as possible. Other than setting loose rules, they ought to get out of the healthcare industry.

What I don’t like about Obamacare is that the bill was not bipartisan. This is a major overhaul of the American medical industry. Not having bipartisan support is just not acceptable. And I especially do not like the government intrusion and lack of freedom.

The Supreme Court ruling is also something to argue about – Roberts says a mandate is unconstitutional, yet, he upholds the law as a tax and not a penalty. I don’t really see the difference.

Doing research at the outset until today, all I read over and over is this – Is this law good or bad? Is the Supreme Court decision a good one or a bad one? The response - It depends on your insurance and your political affiliation.

Yes, we knew when the IRS became involved it was going to be political. This fight is not over by a long shot.

Lastly, the troubling part is that the law has been changed by both Obama and Holder. Changed since the Supreme Court ruling. That means what we are being handed is NOT the original law, which makes me side with Rand Paul’s words - "The president’s been modifying his own plan over the last several months. Should Congress not be part of that? Some of us think it’s illegal for the president to do it without our authority.” He is right.
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DM,
While the majority of the Republican Party is white (male and female), throwing race into your point only obscures what (I think) you want everyone to see.

With that said, let there be no doubt in anyone's mind that if things were switched around, and it was a few democrats pulling this stunt while a Republican was President, everyone on FOX, and all the self-righteous conservatives that feed at FOX's trough would be just as upset as you are by the GOP idiots in the House that has taken our country hostage, politically speaking.

Am I the only one that remembers Hannity calling everyone who continued to publicly criticize Bush, "un-American" for doing so? If Hannity wasn't such a political hypocrite, he'd say the same things today-- but that is the evil side of politics.

Politics will take otherwise good Christian conservatives and turn them into hypocrites, politically speaking.

You have a valid point that can be made without bringing up the race of the people involved.

Unless...

You have two or more specific points you are trying to make.

May I suggest that if you do, make them plainly and in separate statements?

If you do, you will probably have at least one supporter on this thread.
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