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05-23-2007, 05:21 PM
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I'm very free in my spirit as I have no weave to toss.
The Brothers that throw their weaves away have experienced lightness in their spirits.
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05-23-2007, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
I'm very free in my spirit as I have no weave to toss.
The Brothers that throw their weaves away have experienced lightness in their spirits.
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You could save it for winter to cover your little dog or even save it for AMISH day at church and use it for a beard.
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05-23-2007, 05:27 PM
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You do make an excellent point. Black people don't view hair the same way that white people do. Never have, probably never will. I think what you said here was completely accurate and don't find anything racist in it. You have your facts straight. Because our hair grows "up and out" instead of down it doesn't get the same reaction as long straight hair. A lot of times the responses to afro textured hair are extremely negative.
Many black women wear wigs, chemically straighten their hair and use weaves in order to achieve a look that will be acceptable to mainstream America. Some women choose relaxers because it makes their super thick hair easier to manage. In most cases its not just a matter of preference. It's a matter of survival. Most jobs won't hire you if your hair looks "unprofessional". That includes but is not limited to: unnatural colors, radical hair cuts and anything deemed as ethnic. Translation for Black women: Get a relaxer. Something is wrong with you. The way God made you isn't good enough. That is where the racism comes in. No one has any control over their DNA or what grows out of their scalp.
People loving long flowing hair is nothing new. I believe that what is in your head is more far important that what is on your head.
I think long hair vs. short hair looking masculine or feminine depends on where you are standing on the globe. Many Samoan men grow their hair down their backs. Trust me. You have NO problem telling that they are men. Many women in Africa wear short natural hair styles. Again you have NO problem telling that they are women. It would be difficult to get that mixed up.
I do see your point. When the attributes of one group are designated as the hallmark of a standard then what are people of other groups supposed to do? They feel alienated. I think that is the reason most black churches don't even go there with the uncut hair. It rings too familiar of the rejection regarding hair issues we deal with in society.
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You speak as a white man about the hair of white women. Black men don't speak this way, even in the UPC. Know why? Because God didn't see fit to give black women the ability to grow 'long' hair, in most cases! Black women's hair doesn't look much different than the men, unless the men shave theirs. Their hair isn't an attraction. It doesn't get the stares that long hair on a white women would get.
This is only one of several problems that the 'long hair looks more feminine and gives more of a distinction between genders' arguments have. Black women just can't compete.
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05-23-2007, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Trouvere
You could save it for winter to cover your little dog or even save it for AMISH day at church and use it for a beard.
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Well at FPC they would let me have a beard ,they won't toss me out the door.
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05-23-2007, 05:31 PM
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Welcome to AFF POB406.
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05-23-2007, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pob406
You do make an excellent point. Black people don't view hair the same way that white people do. Never have, probably never will. I think what you said here was completely accurate and don't find anything racist in it. You have your facts straight. Because our hair grows "up and out" instead of down it doesn't get the same reaction as long straight hair. A lot of times the responses to afro textured hair are extremely negative.
Many black women wear wigs, chemically straighten their hair and use weaves in order to achieve a look that will be acceptable to mainstream America. Some women choose relaxers because it makes their super thick hair easier to manage. In most cases its not just a matter of preference. It's a matter of survival. Most jobs won't hire you if your hair looks "unprofessional". That includes but is not limited to: unnatural colors, radical hair cuts and anything deemed as ethnic. Translation for Black women: Get a relaxer. Something is wrong with you. The way God made you isn't good enough. That is where the racism comes in. No one has any control over their DNA or what grows out of their scalp.
People loving long flowing hair is nothing new. I believe that what is in your head is more far important that what is on your head.
I think long hair vs. short hair looking masculine or feminine depends on where you are standing on the globe. Many Samoan men grow their hair down their backs. Trust me. You have NO problem telling that they are men. Many women in Africa wear short natural hair styles. Again you have NO problem telling that they are women. It would be difficult to get that mixed up.
I do see your point. When the attributes of one group are designated as the hallmark of a standard then what are people of other groups supposed to do? They feel alienated. I think that is the reason most black churches don't even go there with the uncut hair. It rings too familiar of the rejection regarding hair issues we deal with in society.
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A very well thought out response!
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05-23-2007, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Well at FPC they would let me have a beard ,they won't toss me out the door.
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Yeah but it has to be a REAL beard not one from the thrift store.Let me know because it would not be biblical unless we plucked it.
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05-23-2007, 05:38 PM
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Just my opinon but in most of the assemblies that I attend for special things or have spoken in the women wear hats.Is this cultural as well? I wondered because some of my hispanic sister friends do as well.I have always had a problem with this as my hair is long and thick and when I put a hat on my head it is so tight or does not hold on well.My sister friends tell me they can have me styling in a minute with a hat that will turn my mans head.I like that expression because it almost sounds cajun.
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05-23-2007, 05:40 PM
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Hey Sister T,
If you see Brother Bobby Pitman around the church ,tell him hello for me.
His brother is a ALJC minister and a friend of mine.
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05-23-2007, 05:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Hey Sister T,
If you see Brother Bobby Pitman around the church ,tell him hello for me.
His brother is a ALJC minister and a friend of mine.
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I will tell him tonight.Great! Now go shave its after five.lol.
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