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Old 06-20-2012, 12:31 PM
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What if he dies without the smile on his face?
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Working in the hospital, I have seen cases like this happen. Rare...but they do happen.
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Working in the hospital, I have seen cases like this happen. Rare...but they do happen.
My wife has many stories from her short time working in a Hospice setting. No death by sex to her knowledge but many very peaceful passing's.
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Old 06-20-2012, 01:55 PM
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Randy Im not sure I can agree to burning at the stake.... well maybe for the one you cited.... but they ought to have a death clock counting down their every second of life left...
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I suppose the only way I could answer the question of whether or not I support the death penalty would be in the form of actually serving on a jury where the death penalty is being considered.

Used to, I would jump on it. "Kill 'em! They deserve to die!" Well, not so fast there. After all, I've never served on a jury, period, even though I've been summoned but dismissed.

Honestly, it's a tough topic for me, although I would probably lean 60/40 toward being against it, if anything. Sure, we deal with overcrowding in prisons. I get that. But, there are people in prisons for non-violent crimes. No one got hurt. No one was sexually abused/molested, etc. Yet, they sit in a cell thinking of better things/places they could do/be. The flip side is that we, the taxpayer, are paying for a person who committed a violent crime to live, see the light of day, eat a meal, drink water, etc, until their execution all the while the person they supposedly killed is, well...they're dead. And the victim's family deal in agony with that fact. I could see the support for the death penatly from that aspect. The family and friends want their piece of the justice pie.

However, until I'm actually part of a jury where the death penalty is being considered, I can't answer honestly without knowing for sure...
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I suppose the only way I could answer the question of whether or not I support the death penalty would be in the form of actually serving on a jury where the death penalty is being considered.

Used to, I would jump on it. "Kill 'em! They deserve to die!" Well, not so fast there. After all, I've never served on a jury, period, even though I've been summoned but dismissed.

Honestly, it's a tough topic for me, although I would probably lean 60/40 toward being against it, if anything. Sure, we deal with overcrowding in prisons. I get that. But, there are people in prisons for non-violent crimes. No one got hurt. No one was sexually abused/molested, etc. Yet, they sit in a cell thinking of better things/places they could do/be. The flip side is that we, the taxpayer, are paying for a person who committed a violent crime to live, see the light of day, eat a meal, drink water, etc, until their execution all the while the person they supposedly killed is, well...they're dead. And the victim's family deal in agony with that fact. I could see the support for the death penatly from that aspect. The family and friends want their piece of the justice pie.

However, until I'm actually part of a jury where the death penalty is being considered, I can't answer honestly without knowing for sure...

Dagwood, you bring up some good points about who we put in prison and why.

If I was king for a day, I would drastically change things.

First all non-violent convictions would be put into mainstreamed holdings where the individual would be required to go to work every day at some job in the real world and their sentance would be a monitary one.

They would have to work until they paid the fine off. They couldnt get mommy and daddy to pay or use their existing bank account to pay. They would have to go make the money.

if they couldnt get a job, they would be forced to get training for something (the cost of which would be added to their sentance) and then after training go get a job and pay off the debt... all the while living in the jail...or whatever you call it.

violent criminals would be forced to hard labor. and by hard labor, i mean HARD LABOR. Things that benifit society.
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In the case I linked to at the beginning of this thread, I cannot say I am sorry for him. He knew exactly what he was doing. It was heinous, it was subhuman. Any normal human being would vomit cutting up another human being and using bolt cutters and knives from his place of employment.

My POV would probably change on a case by case situation. There have been many innocent people who have died at the hands of selfish mongrels and many people who have been innocent of what they were accused of doing.

Like some here, I would pray that the crime is proven without a shadow of any doubt that it was committed by the person who received the DP.
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