Black kid got profiled in Florida....the dirt bag "Neighborhood Watch" moron thought he was suspicious..black kid with a hoodie...so he shot him
That was one of the most shameful things I've ever heard. This person was looking for a reason to kill someone and should be under a jail somewhere, I pray that he does not get away with this horrible crime.
Profiling in it's self, I have no issue with. It is a valid and proven mode of prevention of crime, just ask El Al Airlines, or the many interstate drug task force teams that make successful busts. HOWEVER, this like any other legitimate tool of crime prevention can be, and probably in your case, has been abused.
Believe me, if our country was stricken with a huge onslaught of missing little debbie cakes from convenient stores all across the the nation, and the top offenders were fat, bald, white guys..... well, then I would suspect that every time an officer sees me, I'm gonna get profiled.
We have to be honest about the statistics about interstate drug crimes, and the profile of that offender. Profiling is smart... Not when it's abused!!!! Let me make that point clear, so I'm not taken out of context, but when done properly, profiling is legitimate.
SIDEBAR: Our airlines should actually promote more profiling. Last time I checked it wasn't any 80 year Baptist old grannies, or 3 year old kids in wheelchairs that were trying to blow planes out of the sky. It's been middle eastern, Muslim, young men, that have traveled frequently to the middle east. We should be PROFILING here!!!!!
Truly spoken like someone who has NEVER experienced any prejudice or injustice of any kind in his lifetime. You say you would expect to be unfairly treated if certain very unlikely circumstances came to pass but I have to wonder how your bravado would actually hold up. I'd be willing to bet that just once being thrown on the ground and having a 9mm stuck to the back of your head... or even just being cuffed and carried to the local cop-shop while your car was impounded and your wife and child left on the side of the road to find their own ride from a strange place and your big trash talk would evaporate like a wisp of steam from a hot cow patty on a cold morning.
When I travel and see people of middle eastern descent in airports I feel such compassion for them. How brave they must be to go somewhere knowing that all eyes are upon them and very few are friendly. I do my best to try to give them a reassuring smile or a friendly hello.
Some times when you post you seem the epitome of unchristian character. Maybe that is not your intention but I often find you abrasive in the way that only those with very limited life experience are to me. Good Lord man... try to think before you speak. Stew is much too much the gentleman to say it and maybe he does not even feel it but this post in this thread made me want to vomit. I took a while and reread it to be sure it was not just a knee jerk reaction... and it is not.
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Ha, I wondered if that post might generate some criticism.
Having experienced professional profiling my whole life--I guess I fit the profile of a Zionist or something--let me just say that I agree with Bro Robbins, as strange as this might sound at first.
Also, that I am as white-bread as it comes, and I got pulled over in the I-10 corridor plenty of times myself. I think it is location more than race.
I would separate "pro" from "idiot" in profiling--if one just imagines what a pro would like to say; "Hey, hi. I just pulled you over because you happen to be traveling the most heavily used black (no pun intended) market corridor in the US; so I am essentially tasked with protecting you, or arresting you..."
Also that I moved from that area, largely for the reason in this thread's title.
Ha, I wondered if that post might generate some criticism.
Having experienced professional profiling my whole life--I guess I fit the profile of a Zionist or something--let me just say that I agree with Bro Robbins, as strange as this might sound at first.
Also, that I am as white-bread as it comes, and I got pulled over in the I-10 corridor plenty of times myself. I think it is location more than race.
I would separate "pro" from "idiot" in profiling--if one just imagines what a pro would like to say; "Hey, hi. I just pulled you over because you happen to be traveling the most heavily used black (no pun intended) market corridor in the US; so I am essentially tasked with protecting you, or arresting you..."
Also that I moved from that area, largely for the reason in this thread's title.
Being blatantly tailed for miles and pulled over for no reason...no speeding, suspicious behavior, suspicious activity on the license plate (that I know was called in), questionable vehicle, or any other discernible reason is just an intrusion that I believe is wrong and not universal.
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Hey, it's famous enough that there's a song about it, lol; I'm not disagreeing.
But you are up against a bunch of sensitive flash words in there in the I-10,
and I've been hearing this for...ever. Can't imagine what it's like to be DWL
(Driving While Latino) in there if I'm getting pulled over every other trip.
Being blatantly tailed for miles and pulled over for no reason...no speeding, suspicious behavior, suspicious activity on the license plate (that I know was called in), questionable vehicle, or any other discernible reason is just an intrusion that I believe is wrong and not universal.
Stew,
As a white guy who grew up in a majority black county and city I have been stopped many times and harassed by black cops. I was once even told that I "better watch what I was doing because they were jumpy and didn't want to have to pull our their gun" this was said while they were searching me with my hands on the hood of the car.
I have never been arrested and I have never been in any real trouble. My wife lived in a black neighborhood so when we were dating I was always traveling through.
I am the last to scream racism but I have experience my share of it. I have stories that I can tell that would blow your mind. People that are not from the ghetto just don't understand how racist many black people are towards white folks.
Now, I will say that this is still a small issue in the overall fabric of our country. Not everyone nor the majority is racist but you have people who are and they will never change. We are not a racist country but people do fear and still group people by stereotypes. White people are so beat down and have so much "white" guilt that they overcompensate in order not to look racist in many areas.
One story that is interesting to me, the town that I am from has a black mayor. Well, a little old lady was being robbed in walmart parking lot by a "black" guy and some people ran to her aid and stopped the guy. The mayor's quote was, "we need to wait for the police and stop having vigilantism in the streets". Another example was a marine who shot a black boy about 15 years old who was in his house, however, this time the man who shot was black and they didn't claim racism but there was a big uproar in the community because the kid was a kid who sang in the choir and a lot of people knew. The problem was this kids was robbing someones house in the middle of the night and yes he was probably a decent kid in school and everything but when you rob someones house in the middle of the night you are asking for it.
As a white guy who grew up in a majority black county and city I have been stopped many times and harassed by black cops. I was once even told that I "better watch what I was doing because they were jumpy and didn't want to have to pull our their gun" this was said while they were searching me with my hands on the hood of the car.
I have never been arrested and I have never been in any real trouble. My wife lived in a black neighborhood so when we were dating I was always traveling through.
I am the last to scream racism but I have experience my share of it. I have stories that I can tell that would blow your mind. People that are not from the ghetto just don't understand how racist many black people are towards white folks.
Now, I will say that this is still a small issue in the overall fabric of our country. Not everyone nor the majority is racist but you have people who are and they will never change. We are not a racist country but people do fear and still group people by stereotypes. White people are so beat down and have so much "white" guilt that they overcompensate in order not to look racist in many areas.
One story that is interesting to me, the town that I am from has a black mayor. Well, a little old lady was being robbed in walmart parking lot by a "black" guy and some people ran to her aid and stopped the guy. The mayor's quote was, "we need to wait for the police and stop having vigilantism in the streets". Another example was a marine who shot a black boy about 15 years old who was in his house, however, this time the man who shot was black and they didn't claim racism but there was a big uproar in the community because the kid was a kid who sang in the choir and a lot of people knew. The problem was this kids was robbing someones house in the middle of the night and yes he was probably a decent kid in school and everything but when you rob someones house in the middle of the night you are asking for it.
It has been my personal observation that "in the ghetto" if you are white and live in the ghetto, you are not subjected to harrassment and prejudice.
It's more of an outsider vs. insider mentality when it comes to the reality of
what goes on in the ghetto. The profiling I've experienced personally is very different from the ghetto.
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It has been my personal observation that "in the ghetto" if you are white and live in the ghetto, you are not subjected to harrassment and prejudice.
It's more of an outsider vs. insider mentality when it comes to the reality of
what goes on in the ghetto. The profiling I've experienced personally is very different from the ghetto.
The thing that bothers me a little is that if I had been gunned down by the cops there would have been no protest and no outrage.
You are true about living in the ghetto but the problem is when you are driving through no one knows you five streets over.
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