I can agree with this too... people think I am just down on preachers... I have the exact same issues with "saints"... I'm disillusioned on both sides of the fence, which is why I have started thinking more about the kind of people that live in certain towns and the kind of people who are attracted to certain cultures/religions. I can't even shake hands with some of the people at my dad's church without rolling my eyes... easier to just not go.
I really feel for PKs who grew up seeing all the nasty side of ministry, both the politics concerning other ministers and the crazy saints that hurt them.
it is tuff. Spiritual Abuse happens more than we care to admit from more sources than one would think. the real complication is, only the abused can fix themselves. Brad, I am sorry for what youve been put thru.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
I'm not a victim... my life is great now, and I credit it to being made stronger by the things I saw happen growing up... the only time I even discuss religion is with Nate, my brother or on these forums... I don't walk around with a big sign on my back saying I have baggage in real life.
I really feel for PKs who grew up seeing all the nasty side of ministry, both the politics concerning other ministers and the crazy saints that hurt them.
it is tuff. Spiritual Abuse happens more than we care to admit from more sources than one would think. the real complication is, only the abused can fix themselves. Brad, I am sorry for what youve been put thru.
Honest and sincere question here (figured I should put that in there since I have a reputation of being silly -- and rebellious):
Don't you think it's a telling sign when so many PK's all have the same concept of both pastors and saints? I mean, isn't that pointing to a fault somewhere? And I'm not saying that, as PK's, we should be given a pass and left out of the equation -- but, in the end, the equation, more times than necessary, points to having a problem in the system as a whole. Especially for those who find themselves in this situation. And, let's be honest, it isn't a single instance here and there -- it is something that is unquestionably there.
Now, I know people will say, "Get over it" -- yada yada yada
But how are we, as the humans who created such a structure attempting to CHANGE the structure? We aren't. Or very few are.
__________________ Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break into pieces. | Etienne de la Boetie
I'm not a victim... my life is great now, and I credit it to being made stronger by the things I saw happen growing up... the only time I even discuss religion is with Nate, my brother or on these forums... I don't walk around with a big sign on my back saying I have baggage in real life.
He's correct -- no Samsonite or anything... (put on my silly face again)
__________________ Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break into pieces. | Etienne de la Boetie
Honest and sincere question here (figured I should put that in there since I have a reputation of being silly -- and rebellious):
Don't you think it's a telling sign when so many PK's all have the same concept of both pastors and saints? I mean, isn't that pointing to a fault somewhere? And I'm not saying that, as PK's, we should be given a pass and left out of the equation -- but, in the end, the equation, more times than necessary, points to having a problem in the system as a whole. Especially for those who find themselves in this situation. And, let's be honest, it isn't a single instance here and there -- it is something that is unquestionably there.
Now, I know people will say, "Get over it" -- yada yada yada
But how are we, as the humans who created such a structure attempting to CHANGE the structure? We aren't. Or very few are.
I prefer Delsey... but I do have one Samsonite bag. Since I travel some for work, I seem to have developed a luggage fetish... please pray for me.
Note that I still cannot afford Hartmann.
I prefer Hefty. Cinch Sack I believe is the model name...
__________________ Resolve to serve no more, and you are at once freed. I do not ask that you place hands upon the tyrant to topple him over, but simply that you support him no longer; then you will behold him, like a great Colossus whose pedestal has been pulled away, fall of his own weight and break into pieces. | Etienne de la Boetie
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