Where do the lost spend eternity? Really!

[Timmy]

Eternal torment/burning/torture/.... whatever you want to call it. Is that the ultimate fate (after judgement) of the lost?

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Eternal torment/burning/torture/.... whatever you want to call it. Is that the ultimate fate (after judgement) of the lost?

Yep.

[Nahum]

yes

This is why I choose to live my life to the fullest now... hell seems inevitable... (although the ceasing to exist theory that some people subscribe to sounds much more pleasant than an eternal sizzle). I believe it is impossible for anyone to make it to heaven based on what I was taught growing up... unless you are lucky enough to die within nano-seconds of speaking in tongues (so you don't have time to sin before you die).

This is why I find it easier to just accept that I am going to hell rather than spend my life in fear of going there.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

This is why I choose to live my life to the fullest now... hell seems inevitable... (although the ceasing to exist theory that some people subscribe to sounds much more pleasant than an eternal sizzle). I believe it is impossible for anyone to make it to heaven based on what I was taught growing up... unless you are lucky enough to die within nano-seconds of speaking in tongues (so you don't have time to sin before you die).

This is why I find it easier to just accept that I am going to hell rather than spend my life in fear of going there.

This is some sort of sick joke, right?

God is much more merciful than we are, and that we think He is. Our goodness could never save us Bro. It's our trust in His saving grace that does the trick.

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

This is some sort of sick joke, right?

God is much more merciful than we are, and that we think He is. Our goodness could never save us Bro. It's our trust in His saving grace that does the trick.

Actually no, the only way I can logically resolve the Apostolic stuff is by assuming that everyone is going to hell... years of hearing that even if you are saved and then have a sinful thought and God comes back before you repent lead me to this assumption...

I've posted multiple analogies to try to explain how I feel over the last few years on these forums... it is kinda like being at an amusement park where you can spend the entire day standing in line for the new ride which you might not be tall enough to ride, or you can actually go enjoy several of the other rides and miss out on the new one.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

Actually no, the only way I can logically resolve the Apostolic stuff is by assuming that everyone is going to hell... years of hearing that even if you are saved and then have a sinful thought and God comes back before you repent lead me to this assumption...

I've posted multiple analogies to try to explain how I feel over the last few years on these forums... it is kinda like being at an amusement park where you can spend the entire day standing in line for the new ride which you might not be tall enough to ride, or you can actually go enjoy several of the other rides and miss out on the new one.

There seems to be a different kind of logic at work in the Apostolic's mind than in most people!

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

Actually no, the only way I can logically resolve the Apostolic stuff is by assuming that everyone is going to hell... years of hearing that even if you are saved and then have a sinful thought and God comes back before you repent lead me to this assumption...

I've posted multiple analogies to try to explain how I feel over the last few years on these forums... it is kinda like being at an amusement park where you can spend the entire day standing in line for the new ride which you might not be tall enough to ride, or you can actually go enjoy several of the other rides and miss out on the new one.

I have so much more peace of mind now than I did years ago, because of the way I'd been taught. I uesd to go to bed at night wondering if i'd make it if the rapture took place, and that's after we were in the ministry full time! Now I know and understand that I'm a child of God and that He loves me regardless. That doesn't mean that we don't live holy, because I think you have to strive to do the best that you can. But I don't live under condemnation.

Originally Posted by Sherri

I have so much more peace of mind now than I did years ago, because of the way I'd been taught. I uesd to go to bed at night wondering if i'd make it if the rapture took place, and that's after we were in the ministry full time! Now I know and understand that I'm a child of God and that He loves me regardless. That doesn't mean that we don't live holy, because I think you have to strive to do the best that you can. But I don't live under condemnation.

That's kinda where I am at too... this is why I don't take any of the stuff I learned growing up seriously anymore, I'm not going to spend every moment of my life in fear, the way we were taught to... I just live my life, and try to be a good person (this is where Chancellor jumps in and says there is none good but God). But if I am wrong, and the Apostolic mentality is correct, then I believe and accept that I am going to hell and there isn't much I can do about it other than spend the rest of my life, 24x7 praying in a dark, empty room with no windows, which I'm not willing to do.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Eternal torment/burning/torture/.... whatever you want to call it. Is that the ultimate fate (after judgement) of the lost?

They go to the Lake O Fire. Whatever or however one wants to define what that is, that is where they go, for ever