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Old 11-11-2007, 12:14 AM
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When Is The Blood Applied ?

We know that without the shedding of Jesus's Christ there is no forgiveness or remission of sins ?
So it takes an application of the Shed Blood Of the Lamb of God in order for a person to receive justification from a sinful state or unregenerate condition of the soul.
So when is the blood of Jesus Christ applied to a person's life ?
Is it at repentance ?
Is it at being buried in a watery grave in Jesus Name ?
Is it at receiving The Holy Spirit ?

When is the blood of Jesus applied ?
I love the old hymn that says what can wash away my sin ,nothing but the blood of Jesus.
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:17 AM
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We know that without the shedding of Jesus's Christ there is no forgiveness or remission of sins ?
So it takes an application of the Shed Blood Of the Lamb of God in order for a person to receive justification from a sinful state or unregenerate condition of the soul.
So when is the blood of Jesus Christ applied to a person's life ?
Is it at repentance ?
Is it at being buried in a watery grave in Jesus Name ?
Is it at receiving The Holy Spirit ?

When is the blood of Jesus applied ?
I love the old hymn that says what can wash away my sin ,nothing but the blood of Jesus.
It was applied to the human race when Jesus shed it!
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It was applied to the human race when Jesus shed it!
Then nobody would have gone to hell, not even Hitler
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Then nobody would have gone to hell, not even Hitler
uhm... I think that's crakjak's point, there Prax.
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:52 AM
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uhm... I think that's crakjak's point, there Prax.
No, Crak believes people ARE in hell right now, but that eventually they too will be redeemed
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uhm... I think that's crakjak's point, there Prax.
Right! At least not in the "literal non consuming endless torture without any hope" variety.
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Right! At least not in the "literal non consuming endless torture without any hope" variety.
you DO believe people to go hell to a temporary punishment though right?
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We know that without the shedding of Jesus's Christ there is no forgiveness or remission of sins ?
So it takes an application of the Shed Blood Of the Lamb of God in order for a person to receive justification from a sinful state or unregenerate condition of the soul.
So when is the blood of Jesus Christ applied to a person's life ?
Is it at repentance ?
Is it at being buried in a watery grave in Jesus Name ?
Is it at receiving The Holy Spirit ?

When is the blood of Jesus applied ?
I love the old hymn that says what can wash away my sin ,nothing but the blood of Jesus.
Well, Scott,
You'll get answers that will say it's at repentance, some that will say it's at water baptism, and others that it takes all three steps before the blood is applied. Then you'll get an answer that the Bible does not use the term of the blood being applied.
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Well, Scott,
You'll get answers that will say it's at repentance, some that will say it's at water baptism, and others that it takes all three steps before the blood is applied. Then you'll get an answer that the Bible does not use the term of the blood being applied.
I don't think I've heard a "three stepper" say that the blood is not applied until after all three steps. I think most I hear say at baptism or repentance, but that something ELSE happens at baptism or receiving the Holy Ghost (like sanctification)
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  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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If The Blood was applied to the entire human race at Calvary ,why the need for a borned again experience ? Also then how can those who don't believe in Christ perish ?If one perishes that doesn't sound like delieverance.
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