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11-04-2007, 01:30 AM
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Should they leave or stay?
The local church? I was wondering your opinions. Some saints under a very strict Pastor does not agree with a lot of what he teaches....should they just stay and obey and keep unity? Should they stay but walk their own walk? Or should they go and "good riddance" to them?
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11-04-2007, 01:41 AM
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Disunity hinders revival.They should pray and do what Jesus says.Strict is one thing.Cultish is another.
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11-04-2007, 02:59 AM
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It depends. Some "strict" pastors are actually quite tolerant as long they're not getting a bunch of "in your face" type of feedback.
If they cannot peacefully coexist, then they need to go where they can peacefully exist. No "good riddance" is in order. All parties should act as brethren and treat one another with mutual respect.
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11-04-2007, 11:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pelathais
It depends. Some "strict" pastors are actually quite tolerant as long they're not getting a bunch of "in your face" type of feedback.
If they cannot peacefully coexist, then they need to go where they can peacefully exist. No "good riddance" is in order. All parties should act as brethren and treat one another with mutual respect.
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Agreed!
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11-04-2007, 04:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pelathais
It depends. Some "strict" pastors are actually quite tolerant as long they're not getting a bunch of "in your face" type of feedback.
If they cannot peacefully coexist, then they need to go where they can peacefully exist. No "good riddance" is in order. All parties should act as brethren and treat one another with mutual respect.
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You said it even better than I.
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11-04-2007, 10:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pelathais
It depends. Some "strict" pastors are actually quite tolerant as long they're not getting a bunch of "in your face" type of feedback.
If they cannot peacefully coexist, then they need to go where they can peacefully exist. No "good riddance" is in order. All parties should act as brethren and treat one another with mutual respect.
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I will agree with this view.
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11-04-2007, 06:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxeas
The local church? I was wondering your opinions. Some saints under a very strict Pastor does not agree with a lot of what he teaches....should they just stay and obey and keep unity? Should they stay but walk their own walk? Or should they go and "good riddance" to them?
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Great question, but one that has to be answered individually. I don't think we should sit on the pew if we can not submit to what is being taught. If we stay and "do our own thing" we are being rebellious, and while we ourselves may be able to still keep our relationship with God we may be a stumbling block to another. The second time I left it was because I didn't agree with the teaching, and I did not want to be rebellious so I went my own way. I still worship, pray and praise, but not at that church. To many I would be rebellious no matter which I choose unless I just stayed and followed along blindly whether I felt it was right for me or not! I think most of us know in our spirit when something does not feel right, that is what the HG is for to help us discern, and I trust my HG...my Lord, my Jesus.
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11-04-2007, 02:55 PM
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To question anything a pastor, church, or religous org. says, does, or requires is obviously rebellion.
Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.
So the answer is a resounding "NO". You can never question anything. If things happen you don't agree with it just means you are carnal.
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11-04-2007, 03:11 PM
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If one cannot come under subjection to a pastor and comply with the standards taught they need to find somewhere else to attend church.
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11-04-2007, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted
If one cannot come under subjection to a pastor and comply with the standards taught they need to find somewhere else to attend church.
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I agree with the overall thought but disagree with the word choice of "subjection". I do not think ANYONE needs to be under "subjection" of any other human.
However, I think people need to be under someone they respect and someone who has earned that right to be respected. I will follow the advice of someone I disagree with if I have respect for them and believe they may know something I don't. However, if all they ever tell me is an endless list of their own personal convictions I am sure as shootin not going to listen to them when it comes to something important and WILL find somewhere else to go.
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