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10-07-2007, 03:37 PM
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Genesis 11:10
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dead God?
I went to an event a couple nights ago and in one of the songs the words were " I believe in the one God who died", what? who thinks that God died on the cross? Wasn't it the humanity of Jesus that died? How can God die if He's "from everlasting to everlasting''? I don't get it.
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10-07-2007, 04:15 PM
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Wrong title- dead god, little g.
God never died, unless you believe in the Trinity.
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10-07-2007, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
Wrong title- dead god, little g.
God never died, unless you believe in the Trinity.
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We don't believe that Deity can die.......
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10-07-2007, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Arphaxad
I went to an event a couple nights ago and in one of the songs the words were " I believe in the one God who died", what? who thinks that God died on the cross? Wasn't it the humanity of Jesus that died? How can God die if He's "from everlasting to everlasting''? I don't get it.
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the humanity died? So a person did not die but a humanity did?
What does that mean? Question WHO died on the cross? Was it God or was it someone OTHER than God?
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10-07-2007, 05:54 PM
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Once again OPs show their ignorance in the difference between nature and person
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-09-2007, 10:51 PM
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Genesis 11:10
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Once again OPs show their ignorance in the difference between nature and person
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That's why I ask questions to the things I am ignorant of.
(''Wasn't it the humanity of Jesus that died?'')
Thanks be to God that total knowledge is not a requirement of salvation.
ARPH
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10-15-2007, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Arphaxad
That's why I ask questions to the things I am ignorant of.
(''Wasn't it the humanity of Jesus that died?'')
Thanks be to God that total knowledge is not a requirement of salvation.
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Well let me ask you some questions...what is "humanity"? Is Humanity a person or a nature? Is Humanity a who or a what?
Now...when you die do YOU die or does your humanity die? Is your humanity something separate from you?
Death does not mean "cease to exist"
See...my question is WHO died? Was it someone other than Jehovah or did Jehovah experience this death Himself through His human nature?
If that is the case then God did die...God in person, not God in Divine nature. If that is not true, then you have two persons....unitarianism, Arianism whatever
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-16-2007, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Well let me ask you some questions...what is "humanity"? Is Humanity a person or a nature? Is Humanity a who or a what?
Now...when you die do YOU die or does your humanity die? Is your humanity something separate from you?
Death does not mean "cease to exist"
See...my question is WHO died? Was it someone other than Jehovah or did Jehovah experience this death Himself through His human nature?
If that is the case then God did die...God in person, not God in Divine nature. If that is not true, then you have two persons....unitarianism, Arianism whatever
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If referring to the PERSON, and claiming the PERSON of God died, since the PERSON of God is the same PERSON of the humanity, then ... If the PERSON of God died, does that mean there was no living GOD for that duration?
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10-21-2007, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Well let me ask you some questions...what is "humanity"? Is Humanity a person or a nature? Is Humanity a who or a what?
Now...when you die do YOU die or does your humanity die? Is your humanity something separate from you?
Death does not mean "cease to exist"
See...my question is WHO died? Was it someone other than Jehovah or did Jehovah experience this death Himself through His human nature?
If that is the case then God did die...God in person, not God in Divine nature. If that is not true, then you have two persons....unitarianism, Arianism whatever
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The easiest way to answer your question is that there is your flesh and then there is your spirit. The flesh is the body that your spirit inhabits while on this earth. When Jesus died, it was His flesh and physical body that died. His (God's) spirit is eternal. Does that make it a little bit easier to understand?
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10-07-2007, 09:46 PM
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God did not die. He is eternal. Eternal means there is life forever in the past and forever in the future
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