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03-03-2007, 04:52 PM
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Doctrinal Purity - Is it THAT Important?
Coonskinner mentioned that doctrinal purity was at the top of the list of attributes needed by a pastor. He put it on the same level as a love for God, and a love for people. Does this mean that any preacher desiring to be a pastor should attend a college/University to study doctrinal theology before they pastor? Or.....can doctrinal purity be achieved with a simple bible study?
How does one know they have achieved doctinal purity?
I'm not sure that doctrinal purity is even achievable!
1Cr 13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
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03-03-2007, 05:00 PM
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Weak, Pianoman.
It doesn't matter how loving and sweet someone is, if they don't preach the truth and your kids are lost, it won't be all that much consolation.
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03-03-2007, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Weak, Pianoman.
It doesn't matter how loving and sweet someone is, if they don't preach the truth and your kids are lost, it won't be all that much consolation.
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My question is, how does one know when they have achieved doctrinal purity? Is it when they line up to what you teach?
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03-03-2007, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
My question is, how does one know when they have achieved doctrinal purity? Is it when they line up to what you teach?
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Pianoman, let me be very, very charitable...
But at the very, very least, a man that doesn't preach the essentiality of the New Birth is far outside the pale.
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03-03-2007, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Pianoman, let me be very, very charitable...
But at the very, very least, a man that doesn't preach the essentiality of the New Birth is far outside the pale.
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I think most Christians teach the New Birth. Just not the way you do.
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03-03-2007, 05:24 PM
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I think most Christians teach the New Birth. Just not the way you do.
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There is only one New Birth. You have to pass through the cloud and the sea. You can't have one and not the other. There is no other way.!!!
(now, what will become of me when I proclaim this to the Presbyterians  )
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03-03-2007, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Pianoman, let me be very, very charitable...
But at the very, very least, a man that doesn't preach the essentiality of the New Birth is far outside the pale.
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We can both agree on this from our worldview!  The problem is that there are millions of others with a different worldview that interpret the same scriptures that we use very differently. So how do we know for sure which way is pure?
It's like every christian takes a gamble. Which ever way they chose to believe the bible, there will be a group that puts them in hell by interpretating some scripture! You just have to take a leap of faith that the church you came to Jesus in, will take you to heaven.
I believe we won't really know until judgment day. I believe I know the truth, but my history has made me bias.
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03-03-2007, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Pianoman
We can both agree on this from our worldview!  The problem is that there are millions of others with a different worldview that interpret the same scriptures that we use very differently. So how do we know for sure which way is pure?
It's like every christian takes a gamble. Which ever way they chose to believe the bible, there will be a group that puts them in hell by interpretating some scripture! You just have to take a leap of faith that the church you came to Jesus in, will take you to heaven.
I believe we won't really know until judgment day. I believe I know the truth, but my history has made me bias. 
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03-03-2007, 06:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pianoman
We can both agree on this from our worldview!  The problem is that there are millions of others with a different worldview that interpret the same scriptures that we use very differently. So how do we know for sure which way is pure?
It's like every christian takes a gamble. Which ever way they chose to believe the bible, there will be a group that puts them in hell by interpretating some scripture! You just have to take a leap of faith that the church you came to Jesus in, will take you to heaven.
I believe we won't really know until judgment day. I believe I know the truth, but my history has made me bias. 
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I understand what you are saying, but I wouldn't say that disagreeing Christians have different "worldviews". Perhaps denominational bias - yes.
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03-03-2007, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
Pianoman, let me be very, very charitable...
But at the very, very least, a man that doesn't preach the essentiality of the New Birth is far outside the pale.
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AGREED
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