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Old 09-29-2007, 06:44 PM
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How long until the UPC does away with holiness standards altogether now that TV advertising is allowed?
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Old 09-29-2007, 06:50 PM
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How long until the UPC does away with holiness standards altogether now that TV advertising is allowed?
never...TV is not going to impact the movement one way or the other...advertising and programming on the radio hasn't....advertising and programming on the internet hasn't....using the other side of a Budwiser billboard hasn't...why does anyne think advertising on TVwould be any different?
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Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.

I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?

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Old 09-29-2007, 06:56 PM
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never...TV is not going to impact the movement one way or the other...advertising and programming on the radio hasn't....advertising and programming on the internet hasn't....using the other side of a Budwiser billboard hasn't...why does anyne think advertising on TVwould be any different?
I don't know T1. I think the approval of Res. #4 is a symptom of a shift in power. Those who disdain the standards or teach them as nefarious traditions ONLY have ascended to stronger position of influence. In my OPINION this faction WILL try to take other former positions of the UPCI toward a significantly more liberal position.
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Old 09-29-2007, 07:00 PM
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I don't know T1. I think the approval of Res. #4 is a symptom of a shift in power. Those who disdain the standards or teach them as nefarious traditions ONLY have ascended to stronger position of influence. In my OPINION this faction WILL try to take other former positions of the UPCI toward a significantly more liberal position.
I don't think so. Men like AM are not as interested in losing the "holiness" identity as many are propagating...

KH and AM do still believe in the dress distinctions and always will along with many many others...
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Old 09-29-2007, 07:03 PM
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I don't think so. Men like AM are not as interested in losing the "holiness" identity as many are propagating...

KH and AM do still believe in the dress distinctions and always will along with many many others...
I agree with your assessment of these fine men. However, they are not the masses. I believe there will be a combination of events that will lead more and more men to tolerate and then embrace a more liberal view of separation. In my view, many are not far from there now.
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I agree with your assessment of these fine men. However, they are not the masses. I believe there will be a combination of events that will lead more and more men to tolerate and then embrace a more liberal view of separation. In my view, many are not far from there now.
I think internet is what is making that happen, more than anything, but if the UPC gets more liberal in that way, TV advertising will probably be blamed anyway..because the argument is more convenient. Cons should have opposed internet long ago. Somehow the internet just slipped on by...
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I don't think so. Men like AM are not as interested in losing the "holiness" identity as many are propagating...

KH and AM do still believe in the dress distinctions and always will along with many many others...
I agree with you bro. Griffin....

But what many in the mod to conservative movement fear is what will happen after these leaders die off or step aside from national involvement due to age. Just an observation.... not necessarly always my opinion...

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