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03-01-2007, 10:46 PM
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Strike While The Iron Is Hot?
Suppose someone comes to an altar and repents in a church service or revival meeting. And they request baptism ,should you go on and immediately baptism them burying them with Him in the name of The Lord or you should instruct them about baptism and then take them to a watery grave?
Or should one strike while the iron is hot so to speak?
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03-01-2007, 10:49 PM
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As far as I can see, we should never put off the baptizing of a freshly repented person. If you aint got the tub filled, you likely aint walking in faith for souls.
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03-01-2007, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
As far as I can see, we should never put off the baptizing of a freshly repented person. If you aint got the tub filled, you likely aint walking in faith for souls.
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Agreed. You will not find any hesitation in the Word.
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03-01-2007, 10:54 PM
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So in other words ST.MATT. baptize them wheter they really understand what they are doing?
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03-01-2007, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
So in other words ST.MATT. baptize them wheter they really understand what they are doing?
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Does a corpse understand why he is being buried??
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03-01-2007, 10:58 PM
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Does a corpse understand why he is being buried??
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Isn't there an obstacle course from the altar to the tank that they've got to complete in order to qualify???
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03-01-2007, 11:00 PM
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Does a corpse understand why he is being buried??
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No he doesn't but with children parental consent must be obtained.
I would go ahead and baptize someone in Jesus Name before someone talks them out of it.
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03-01-2007, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
You ever hear the phrase... "there's always room for Jello"?
Man... there's always time for teaching.
I think too much is done in the heat of the moment these days. It is almost like... hey lets dunk them before they change their mind. Well if you only have a few minutes window of time before they change their mind then how deep is this conversion?
I don't mean a 3 week bible study before you baptize them. I don't even mean wait until another night. But I think people need (and they even appreciate) someone taking the time to sit down for a few minutes and explain what all this is that is going on here.
We once had an evangelist come in who, when he would go and pray for people, would stop them and ask if they had repented. He explained what repentance was, what it was for, why we needed to do it, and all that... They would then repent (if they hadn't done so before) and he would continue praying for them.
I don't remember any of the numbers from the revival.... sorry.
But these people then actually understood more about what was going on.
Quite often people feel something VERY real but are confused as all get out because they don't know what's going on.
Whew... a few minutes can make a world of difference.
What's the hurry? Fear? Whatever is not of faith is sin.
It is the word that is going to change their lives. It is the spirit that is going to give them the power to accomplish it.
Don't let them walk off into that water... don't let them be put under that water calling on that name... don't let them do this... without first making sure that they, at least in some measure, comprehend the unbelievable, merciful, powerful, life changing thing that is about to happen.
There are several things in life too beautiful to just fly off in a mad rush into... this is certainly one of them.
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
No he doesn't but with children parental consent must be obtained.
I would go ahead and baptize someone in Jesus Name before someone talks them out of it.
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I agree that things should be done in proper order. But I sometimes wonder why we want to teach someone that does not have spiritual eye's to see into the kingdom. If we go ahead and bury the dead, and let them come forth resurrected in the holy ghost, they are then ready to understand what has taken place.
We don't but a microphone on a mothers womb and explain to the baby what is fixen to happen to them when they come out of the womb. We do not talk to dead folks and let them know that we are getting ready to bury them in the earth. Why spend time trying to teach someone something they cannot see with spiritual eyes. Why not wait until they are born again, and then they will be able to see it with spiritual eyes.
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03-01-2007, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
I agree that things should be done in proper order. But I sometimes wonder why we want to teach someone that does not have spiritual eye's to see into the kingdom. If we go ahead and bury the dead, and let them come forth resurrected in the holy ghost, they are then ready to understand what has taken place.
We don't but a microphone on a mothers womb and explain to the baby what is fixen to happen to them when they come out of the womb. We do not talk to dead folks and let them know that we are getting ready to bury them in the earth. Why spend time trying to teach someone something they cannot see with spiritual eyes. Why not wait until they are born again, and then they will be able to see it with spiritual eyes.
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Do you see how this sounds like re-enactment Matt????
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03-01-2007, 11:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stmatthew
I agree that things should be done in proper order. But I sometimes wonder why we want to teach someone that does not have spiritual eye's to see into the kingdom. If we go ahead and bury the dead, and let them come forth resurrected in the holy ghost, they are then ready to understand what has taken place.
We don't but a microphone on a mothers womb and explain to the baby what is fixen to happen to them when they come out of the womb. We do not talk to dead folks and let them know that we are getting ready to bury them in the earth. Why spend time trying to teach someone something they cannot see with spiritual eyes. Why not wait until they are born again, and then they will be able to see it with spiritual eyes.
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I can't believe I have just read what I have read here. I am glad that I understood why I was being baptized. I feel you rob believers of something very special by not making sure that they fully appreciate the full significance of baptism. I have had far too many people who have expressed that they wished they could be rebaptized once they heard me explain the full significance of it during a message, to not take the time to share with someone what baptism means.
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