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Old 09-02-2007, 02:51 AM
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Pastors move to withhold/lessen SFC offerings in protest of NAYC

I've been away for a while - due to a new job and a major change in schedule - so I apologize if this has already been addressed.

Today I had some time to catch up with some friends of mine (licensed ministers) and am more than a little disappointed with what I've heard. I've asked more than one about it and they've all confirmed the same.

I'm sickened by this. Completely disgusted.

Apparently, in a manner of protesting the sinful '07 NAYC, several Pastors are either withholding or significantly lessening the amount of their SFC offerings this year.

If you're a Pastor who is thinking about doing this, would you mind explaining what in the world you feel this will accomplish? Please, by all means, state why you think you should punish the ministries and people that are supported by SFC simply because of your childish tantrum over what happened at NAYC this year. Help me understand why you feel Tupelo, Lighthouse Ranch, Home and Foreign Missionaries, Bible Quizzing and other District events should pay for what happened at NAYC.

This is as stupid as Democratic Senators/Representatives blocking or withholding funds from the troops because they don't support the war.

Doing this does nothing but hurt and possibly permanently injure the ministries or other people that SFC supports. You sure you want to be a part of that? You sure God would honor your tantrum and attitude of "well, I'll make them pay for what happened . . . "

How dare these men. If they follow through with their threats, they'll have to answer to God for their ridiculous selfishness and arrogance. I cannot imagine God approving of this kind of attitude and action.

Any Pastor here on AFF thinking about making this kind of a childish statement?

JMO Sick . . . just sick.
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:53 AM
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Imagine if our High Priest had decided to withhold His offering because of our sin?

If a pastor feels he has the "right' to withhold his offering as a boycott... it was never an offering in the first place.
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:31 AM
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Imagine if our High Priest had decided to withhold His offering because of our sin?
As we used to say in BC . . . "that'll preach."
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Old 09-04-2007, 01:53 PM
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Imagine if our High Priest had decided to withhold His offering because of our sin?

If a pastor feels he has the "right' to withhold his offering as a boycott... it was never an offering in the first place.
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:47 PM
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Imagine if our High Priest had decided to withhold His offering because of our sin?

If a pastor feels he has the "right' to withhold his offering as a boycott... it was never an offering in the first place.
exactly!
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Old 09-02-2007, 02:55 AM
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A sign of the times, CR.
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Old 09-02-2007, 03:36 AM
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A sign of the times, CR.
The REAL sign of the times is what went on at NAYC....

The UPCI is headed in the wrong direction my friend....

It truly is sad that Lighthouse Ranch, Tupelo, etc. etc. etc. will have to suffer BECAUSE OF THE BAD DECISIONS OF THE LEADERSHIP (I.E. HAZLEWOOD) OF THE UPCI... not the local pastors who disagree with the direction of the organization. I know pastors, who instead of routing their monies through UPCI foreign missions (and having about 2/3 taken out for "administrative costs") are sending their monies directly to the missionaries themselves, and they are receiving 100% of the money, instead of just 1/3.... Also, pastors can support Lighthouse Ranch and Tupelo directly without having to route their money through Hazlewood. What the local pastor are trying to do is withold support the worldly agendas of hazlewood moneygrabbers and displays of carnality as seen at NAYC...

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Old 09-02-2007, 08:26 AM
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The REAL sign of the times is what went on at NAYC....

The UPCI is headed in the wrong direction my friend....

It truly is sad that Lighthouse Ranch, Tupelo, etc. etc. etc. will have to suffer BECAUSE OF THE BAD DECISIONS OF THE LEADERSHIP (I.E. HAZLEWOOD) OF THE UPCI... not the local pastors who disagree with the direction of the organization. I know pastors, who instead of routing their monies through UPCI foreign missions (and having about 2/3 taken out for "administrative costs") are sending their monies directly to the missionaries themselves, and they are receiving 100% of the money, instead of just 1/3.... Also, pastors can support Lighthouse Ranch and Tupelo directly without having to route their money through Hazlewood. What the local pastor are trying to do is withold support the worldly agendas of hazlewood moneygrabbers and displays of carnality as seen at NAYC...

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Come on man........quit holding back........tell us how ya really feel.....

(I do agree to a certain extent....hehe)
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The REAL sign of the times is what went on at NAYC....

The UPCI is headed in the wrong direction my friend....

It truly is sad that Lighthouse Ranch, Tupelo, etc. etc. etc. will have to suffer BECAUSE OF THE BAD DECISIONS OF THE LEADERSHIP (I.E. HAZLEWOOD) OF THE UPCI... not the local pastors who disagree with the direction of the organization. I know pastors, who instead of routing their monies through UPCI foreign missions (and having about 2/3 taken out for "administrative costs") are sending their monies directly to the missionaries themselves, and they are receiving 100% of the money, instead of just 1/3.... Also, pastors can support Lighthouse Ranch and Tupelo directly without having to route their money through Hazlewood. What the local pastor are trying to do is withold support the worldly agendas of hazlewood moneygrabbers and displays of carnality as seen at NAYC...

JMHO

Hazelwood moneygrabbers? Really?!! And you know this - how?

Those pastors who send funds directly to missionaries are acting in defiance of the group they pay dues to and they're also doing a disservice to the missionaries themselves putting them in the position of also acting counter to the way things are supposed to work re FMD of the UPCI.

What about being submitted to the authorities and those in leadership over you?
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Hazelwood moneygrabbers? Really?!! And you know this - how?

Those pastors who send funds directly to missionaries are acting in defiance of the group they pay dues to and they're also doing a disservice to the missionaries themselves putting them in the position of also acting counter to the way things are supposed to work re FMD of the UPCI.

What about being submitted to the authorities and those in leadership over you?
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