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Old 02-27-2007, 05:17 PM
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What's up with pork eating gentiles?

How many of you eat pork or other items the scripture said not to eat? Just curious.
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:18 PM
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I like bacon.
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:21 PM
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How do you explain the fact that you eat these things when the bible tells us not to? <-Not an accusation just a question->?
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:22 PM
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How do you explain the fact that you eat these things when the bible tells us not to? <-Not an accusation just a question->?
I am not a Jewish person.
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:23 PM
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How do you explain the fact that you eat these things when the bible tells us not to? <-Not an accusation just a question->?
Many of the dietary laws and other social laws were to prevent sickness and disease. Today we do not have such problems on a regular basis. Therefore, if you hang a pork chop around my neck to get the dog to play with me the dog will have to find a new friend!

Do you abide by the OT law in explicit fashion or do you acknowledge that there are differences in the categories of law that God gave Moses?
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:25 PM
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Many of the dietary laws and other social laws were to prevent sickness and disease. Today we do not have such problems on a regular basis. Therefore, if you hang a pork chop around my neck to get the dog to play with me the dog will have to find a new friend!

Do you abide by the OT law in explicit fashion or do you acknowledge that there are differences in the categories of law that God gave Moses?
How is it broken down into different categories?
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:28 PM
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How is it broken down into different categories?
I don't have time to get into it now. I have to go to church and practice being a #1 Pharisee.

If you are still interested in my answer, remind me and I will provide you with my view of the OT law and ritual/social/religious instruction!
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:29 PM
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I don't have time to get into it now. I have to go to church and practice being a #1 Pharisee.

If you are still interested in my answer, remind me and I will provide you with my view of the OT law and ritual/social/religious instruction!
I would love to hear your take on this. you can pm me as well if the post will be too long. Thank you.
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:37 PM
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In Acts 15, James, and God, made it clear that what the 'gentiles' were required to live by what the Jews consider the Noahide laws.

Abstain from:
things contaminated by ('consecrated to') idols
from fornication
from what is strangled
from blood

The Jews, as a religion, considered those that did those things (those that obeyed those commands, that is), but did not get circumcised, as "God Fearers"... that's what Cornelius was.

The Jews required this of any proselytite they won from among the gentiles (who did not get circumcised to identify themselves with the nation of Israel), so it makes total sense that this is what they expected of the new gentile converts to this extension of Judaism, which was faith in the Messiah... As a matter of fact, the circumcision argument was what brought this whole debate on to begin with in Acts 15.
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:39 PM
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In Acts 15, James, and God, made it clear that what the 'gentiles' were required to live by what the Jews consider the Noahide laws.

Abstain from:
things contaminated by ('consecrated to') idols
from fornication
from what is strangled
from blood

The Jews, as a religion, considered those that did those things (those that obeyed those commands, that is), but did not get circumcised, as "God Fearers"... that's what Cornelius was.

The Jews required this of any proselytite they won from among the gentiles (who did not get circumcised to identify themselves with the nation of Israel), so it makes total sense that this is what they expected of the new gentile converts to this extension of Judaism, which was faith in the Messiah... As a matter of fact, the circumcision argument was what brought this whole debate on to begin with in Acts 15.
Aren't things strangled and abstaining from blood parts of the dietary law?

So he was stating here that he did require the gentiles to hold to at least part of the dietary law? Right?
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