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Old 08-13-2007, 12:51 PM
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Rev 12:1 - The Woman clothed with the sun

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Revelation 12:1 - 17 (KJV) 1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Who is this woman?

A friend who is baptist and his wife is catholic were discussing this and they came up with different answers.

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Old 08-13-2007, 01:17 PM
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The nation of Isreal this has NOT happened yet.
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Old 08-13-2007, 10:32 PM
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The nation of Isreal this has NOT happened yet.
That's the way I understand it also.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:03 PM
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The nation of Isreal this has NOT happened yet.
"satan" will be kicked out of heaven again???
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:08 PM
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"satan" will be kicked out of heaven again???
I do not think the event recorded in Rev, 12 has happened as of yet.
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I do not think the event recorded in Rev, 12 has happened as of yet.
So Lucifer is still in heaven??
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Old 08-14-2007, 01:33 AM
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1. And there appeared a great wonder in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon
her head a crown of twelve stars:

The woman is the New Testament Church. She is clothed with the sun.
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have PUT ON CHRIST. Gal. 3:27
The moon is under her feet.
And hath raised us up together and made us sit together in HEAVENLY PLACES IN CHRIST JESUS. Eph. 2:6
On her head is a crown of 12 stars.
This speaks of the mind of the Apostles.
And they continued steadfastly in the apostles doctrine:

2. And she being with child cried, travailing in birth and pained to be delivered.

It is what is in her that is giving her pain.

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

The dragon is satan and the ten horns are endtime nations.

And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet, but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. Rev. 18:12

His tail represnts the false teaching of the end time.

15 The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.
16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed. Isaiah 9:15-16

His tail (doctrine) draws a third of the stars of heaven and casts them to the earth.

The stars of heaven speaks of the saints who dwell in heavenly places in Christ. Multitudes are deceived and fall from their heavenly position IN CHRIST. They return to earthly affections and desires.

The devil stands before the woman to destroy the fruit of her womb. Why does he focus his attack on the CHILD?

And she brought forth a MAN CHILD, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up to God
and to his throne.

When we see who the child is we will understand why the enemy wants it destroyed!

And he that OVERCOMETH and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
And he shall rule them with a rod of iron: Rev. 2:26-27

The Manchild represents end time overcomers! Their purpose will change the direction of the Church. God says he will come for a glorious church.

That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, wrinkle, or any such thing: but that it should be holy and woithout blemish. Eph. 5:27

How do we get from where we are today to the goal God has set for his people? That's what the Man Child is all about. Part 1
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"satan" will be kicked out of heaven again???
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Old 08-14-2007, 11:02 AM
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I don't know Britton, but there are some truths here. Maybe not all of it but some truths anyway.

The woman is the church. She will bring forth a remnant, while she flees into the wilderness which is to say where there is no city, being devastated and sought out to be destroyed by the waters of error. Yet, the remnant of her seed will be caught up with great power and and authority to rule with Jesus. This is not only a future prophecy, it is a declaration of the state of the church from time to time given the ebb and flow of her her spiritual state of being. Yet, there will come a time of final victory over the serpent that is promised to the overcomers...the remnant of her seed which is Christ...the body of Christ, fulfilling the overcoming promise in the garden from the beginning.
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