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08-05-2007, 06:45 PM
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Selective Immortality...
Has anyone heard of this teaching?!
As I understand it, the idea of this is that the soul will be in torment for only as long as they person sinned...if the ole boy was a sinner for 65 years, at the end of that span of time, the soul would discentigrate...no fooling here.
Without any specifics, I can only say that there is a place where this is being taught.
Those who know me well know I do not jest about such matters...has anyone come across this teaching before?!
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08-05-2007, 06:50 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Originally Posted by Barb
Has anyone heard of this teaching?!
As I understand it, the idea of this is that the soul will be in torment for only as long as they person sinned...if the ole boy was a sinner for 65 years, at the end of that span of time, the soul would discentigrate...no fooling here.
Without any specifics, I can only say that there is a place where this is being taught.
Those who know me well know I do not jest about such matters...has anyone come across this teaching before?!
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Never heard of it before. Then again, I had never heard of magical hair until I started participating in internet forums.
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08-05-2007, 07:03 PM
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Well, it's a real deal that has just cropped up, and I am wanting to know if this is an isolated thing.
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08-05-2007, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Barb
Well, it's a real deal that has just cropped up, and I am wanting to know if this is an isolated thing.
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Do you, by chance, know any of the scriptures they are basing this doctrine on?
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08-05-2007, 08:12 PM
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Do you, by chance, know any of the scriptures they are basing this doctrine on?
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Yes, only one that I am aware of...
Rev 21:8
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
KJV
They claim the word part here means time...hell is for an appointed time in other words.
Strange...
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08-05-2007, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Barb
Has anyone heard of this teaching?!
As I understand it, the idea of this is that the soul will be in torment for only as long as they person sinned...if the ole boy was a sinner for 65 years, at the end of that span of time, the soul would discentigrate...no fooling here.
Without any specifics, I can only say that there is a place where this is being taught.
Those who know me well know I do not jest about such matters...has anyone come across this teaching before?!
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Hmmm I would like to know what group this is. Are they Oneness?
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08-05-2007, 08:13 PM
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Hmmm I would like to know what group this is. Are they Oneness?
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Yes...
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08-05-2007, 11:13 PM
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Ok so I believe in the death of the wicked in Hell myself. Thats why I am asking who and where. If you are not comfortable putting it here send me a pm. thanks, michael
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08-06-2007, 05:36 AM
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Ok so I believe in the death of the wicked in Hell myself. Thats why I am asking who and where. If you are not comfortable putting it here send me a pm. thanks, michael
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Thank you, no...
But tell me, you believe this?! Is it Universalist in origin?!
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08-06-2007, 08:47 AM
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Thank you, no...
But tell me, you believe this?! Is it Universalist in origin?!
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I dont necessarily believe one will suffer in the lake however many years they lived. Some may suffer a very long time. However long it is according to Yeshua their Lake of Fire experience will end in their death.
28: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matt. 10:28
So this is NOT Universalism but annihilation. It is taught in both Testaments.
4: Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. Ezekiel 18:4
23: For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23
I taught the "immortal soul" doctrine myself for 16 years. A friend shared the truth with me and I began to study it. Very shortly I saw the error of what I had believed.
I am aware of two Apostolic Churches that teach this. Also several Apostolic Teachers. I am sure there must be more.
When I met Evangelist Benincasa years ago he told me that he and other Churches he knew held this.
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