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British Israelism
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09-07-2024, 08:32 AM
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Re: British Israelism
Wikipedia has lots of information on the subject
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism
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09-07-2024, 08:35 AM
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Re: British Israelism
Many proponents of British Israelism actively supported the British Mandate and saw it as a fulfillment of their beliefs. They argued that the British Empire, as the supposed descendants of the lost tribes of Israel, had a divine right to govern Palestine and facilitate the restoration of the Jewish people to their ancestral homeland.
British Israelites believed that the British Mandate was a crucial step towards:
1. Restoring Israel: They saw the Mandate as a means to restore the Jewish people to their rightful place in Palestine, in preparation for the ultimate redemption of the entire House of Israel (including the British people).
2. Fulfilling prophecy: They believed that the Mandate fulfilled biblical prophecies regarding the restoration of Israel and the role of the British Empire in that process.
3. Asserting British dominance: British Israelites also saw the Mandate as a way to assert British dominance and influence in the region, which they believed was divinely ordained.
Notable British Israelites, such as Edward Hine and Herbert Armstrong, actively promoted the idea that the British Empire had a sacred duty to support the Jewish people and facilitate their return to Palestine.
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09-07-2024, 08:36 AM
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Re: British Israelism
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Many proponents of British Israelism actively supported the British Mandate and saw it as a fulfillment of their beliefs. They argued that the British Empire, as the supposed descendants of the lost tribes of Israel, had a divine right to govern Palestine and facilitate the restoration of the Jewish people to their ancestral homeland.
British Israelites believed that the British Mandate was a crucial step towards:
1. Restoring Israel: They saw the Mandate as a means to restore the Jewish people to their rightful place in Palestine, in preparation for the ultimate redemption of the entire House of Israel (including the British people).
2. Fulfilling prophecy: They believed that the Mandate fulfilled biblical prophecies regarding the restoration of Israel and the role of the British Empire in that process.
3. Asserting British dominance: British Israelites also saw the Mandate as a way to assert British dominance and influence in the region, which they believed was divinely ordained.
Notable British Israelites, such as Edward Hine and Herbert Armstrong, actively promoted the idea that the British Empire had a sacred duty to support the Jewish people and facilitate their return to Palestine.
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09-07-2024, 08:37 AM
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Re: British Israelism
This is an interesting site
Cottrell-Boyce, Aidan. 2021. "British Israelism." In James Crossley and Alastair Lockhart (eds.) Critical Dictionary of Apocalyptic and Millenarian Movements. 21 October 2021. Retrieved from https://www.cdamm.org/articles/british-israelism
Eventually, Hine’s British-Israel Identity Corporation was marginalised by the success of the Metropolitan Anglo-Israel Association. Hine left England for America in 1884. Over the next two years, he gave numerous lectures on British-Israelism in cities and towns across the North Eastern United States and Canada. British-Israelism already had some roots in North America—due to the evangelizing efforts of a Toronto-based Methodist and Orangeman named Joseph Wild (1834–1908)—but this potential was cultivated by Edward Hine and his American sponsor, Charles Totten. Totten was a general, a veteran of the Apache wars, and a professor of military strategy at Yale. Totten and Hine’s mission in the late 1880s won many disciples who themselves would go on to found British-Israelist movements in the United States (Barkun 1997). One of their most noted converts was Frank Sandford (1862–1948). Sandford was the founder of a millenarian community in Durham, Maine, called The Kingdom. In the late 1880s, he became convinced of the validity of British-Israelist doctrine. He shared these convictions with his followers, among them Joseph Allen (1847–1930) and Charles Fox Parham (1873–1929). Allen and Fox became the most powerful voices in the emergent Pentecostalist movement, on the West Coast of the United States, in the early decades of the twentieth century. They used their platforms to popularise a range of doctrines associated with British-Israelism (Barkun 1997).
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09-07-2024, 09:00 AM
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Re: British Israelism
The British-Israel movement in the United States, led by Edward Hine and Charles Totten, progressed into Christian Zionism through several key developments:
1. _Mergence with Pentecostalism_: The British-Israel movement influenced Pentecostal leaders like Joseph Allen and Charles Fox Parham, who incorporated its teachings into their eschatological framework.
2. _Dispensationalism_: The British-Israel movement's emphasis on biblical prophecy and restorationism aligned with Dispensationalist theology, which emerged in the late 19th century. Dispensationalism emphasized the importance of Israel in God's plan and the need for Jews to return to their homeland.
3. _Christian support for Zionism_: As the British-Israel movement grew, it fostered a sense of Christian responsibility to support Jewish restoration in Palestine. This led to increased advocacy for Zionist causes among American Christians.
4. _Influence of prominent figures_: Individuals like Frank Sandford, Joseph Allen, and Charles Fox Parham played significant roles in popularizing British-Israelist and Zionist ideas within Pentecostal and evangelical circles.
5. _Post-WWII developments_: Following World War II, Christian Zionism gained momentum as American Christians became increasingly supportive of the newly established State of Israel. This support was fueled by:
- _Cold War geopolitics_: Israel was seen as a strategic ally against Soviet influence in the Middle East.
- _Evangelical growth_: Evangelical Christianity experienced significant growth in the post-war period, and Christian Zionism became a core aspect of its eschatological narrative.
- _Six-Day War (1967)_: Israel's victory in the Six-Day War solidified Christian Zionist support, as many saw it as a fulfillment of biblical prophecy.
The convergence of these factors transformed the British-Israel movement into a broader Christian Zionist movement, which emphasizes support for Israel as a means to fulfill biblical prophecy and hasten the Second Coming.
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Re: British Israelism
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Originally Posted by Amanah
The British-Israel movement in the United States, led by Edward Hine and Charles Totten, progressed into Christian Zionism through several key developments:
1. _Mergence with Pentecostalism_: The British-Israel movement influenced Pentecostal leaders like Joseph Allen and Charles Fox Parham, who incorporated its teachings into their eschatological framework.
2. _Dispensationalism_: The British-Israel movement's emphasis on biblical prophecy and restorationism aligned with Dispensationalist theology, which emerged in the late 19th century. Dispensationalism emphasized the importance of Israel in God's plan and the need for Jews to return to their homeland.
3. _Christian support for Zionism_: As the British-Israel movement grew, it fostered a sense of Christian responsibility to support Jewish restoration in Palestine. This led to increased advocacy for Zionist causes among American Christians.
4. _Influence of prominent figures_: Individuals like Frank Sandford, Joseph Allen, and Charles Fox Parham played significant roles in popularizing British-Israelist and Zionist ideas within Pentecostal and evangelical circles.
5. _Post-WWII developments_: Following World War II, Christian Zionism gained momentum as American Christians became increasingly supportive of the newly established State of Israel. This support was fueled by:
- _Cold War geopolitics_: Israel was seen as a strategic ally against Soviet influence in the Middle East.
- _Evangelical growth_: Evangelical Christianity experienced significant growth in the post-war period, and Christian Zionism became a core aspect of its eschatological narrative.
- _Six-Day War (1967)_: Israel's victory in the Six-Day War solidified Christian Zionist support, as many saw it as a fulfillment of biblical prophecy.
The convergence of these factors transformed the British-Israel movement into a broader Christian Zionist movement, which emphasizes support for Israel as a means to fulfill biblical prophecy and hasten the Second Coming.
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"British-Israelism" includes the belief that the Jews are "Judah". Zionism was sponsored in the late 1700s by both Jewish financiers and their Anglo aristocrat backers. It was originally popularised through the then-current eschatological view (historicism) by prophecy expositors teaching that the Jews would experience a mass conversion to Christ and then God would place them back in Palestine.
With futurism's rise to ascendancy (and dispensationalism's) the "Jews are Judah" morphed into "the Jews are all of Israel and the church is a temporary, parenthetical back-up plan". Zionism promoted Dispensationalism because it divorced their Zionist agendas from any "Anglo-Jewish brotherhood" based on shared ancestry, and replaced it with "Anglo servitude to Zionist interests" via dispensational futurist eschatology.
What is to be observed is that the Jewish Zionist movement (well financed and powerfully backed) was and is itself supported by much of the European aristocracy, who are well aware of who Israel actually is and who "The Jews" are, historically, and the clear differences between the two terms and their respective members. Zionism is a front for a larger scheme, which by the way appears to have been going on throughout much of the medieval period. We have all heard about "the Jews have been kicked out of 109 countries so far", right?
What people don't understand is how and why that has happened. And how it relates to current events, especially with Ukraine (which happens to contain the ancient land of Khazaria). European aristocracy essentially sets up and partners with Khazarian "bankers" in order to obfuscate who is actually in charge of things and who is actually making certain decisions and policies. Then, things are brought to a head, the Khazarians are the scapegoat that the people can vent their frustrations out on, and are "expelled". So the Managers are removed, while the Owners remain, and get to pretend to be "restorers of law and order".
There is a reason the holocaust is called "the holocaust", words have meaning, and that word was deliberately chosen because it is exactly what it was - a "sacrifice". When Judaism teaches that the Jewish people themselves are the Suffering Servant-Messiah, what is happening is the managers of Jewish religious belief are indoctrinating the average Jew to accept the sacrificial loss of Jews as necessary to advance the "Messianic Kingdom of God", by which is actually meant the Euro-Khazarian aristocratic "world order".
I keep running into this same reality, the European royal families trace their lineage not only to the Flavian and other Roman dynasties, but also to Herod and the Idumean (Edomite) royalty.
There are a lot of players on the field, some more important and more influential and powerful than others, but they are all playing the same Game. Meanwhile the average person (including the average Jew, Muslim, and Christian) is none the wiser as to what's actually going on.
But if you study your Bible, you will see the Game for what it is. It's not even their "game", they are like Pharaoh, raised up for a specific Divinely appointed role, that even with all their machinations, plans, and agendas, nevertheless wind up pushing the Plan of God forward. God is literally in control.
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09-07-2024, 08:24 PM
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Re: British Israelism
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"British-Israelism" includes the belief that the Jews are "Judah". Zionism was sponsored in the late 1700s by both Jewish financiers and their Anglo aristocrat backers. It was originally popularised through the then-current eschatological view (historicism) by prophecy expositors teaching that the Jews would experience a mass conversion to Christ and then God would place them back in Palestine.
With futurism's rise to ascendancy (and dispensationalism's) the "Jews are Judah" morphed into "the Jews are all of Israel and the church is a temporary, parenthetical back-up plan". Zionism promoted Dispensationalism because it divorced their Zionist agendas from any "Anglo-Jewish brotherhood" based on shared ancestry, and replaced it with "Anglo servitude to Zionist interests" via dispensational futurist eschatology.
What is to be observed is that the Jewish Zionist movement (well financed and powerfully backed) was and is itself supported by much of the European aristocracy, who are well aware of who Israel actually is and who "The Jews" are, historically, and the clear differences between the two terms and their respective members. Zionism is a front for a larger scheme, which by the way appears to have been going on throughout much of the medieval period. We have all heard about "the Jews have been kicked out of 109 countries so far", right?
What people don't understand is how and why that has happened. And how it relates to current events, especially with Ukraine (which happens to contain the ancient land of Khazaria). European aristocracy essentially sets up and partners with Khazarian "bankers" in order to obfuscate who is actually in charge of things and who is actually making certain decisions and policies. Then, things are brought to a head, the Khazarians are the scapegoat that the people can vent their frustrations out on, and are "expelled". So the Managers are removed, while the Owners remain, and get to pretend to be "restorers of law and order".
There is a reason the holocaust is called "the holocaust", words have meaning, and that word was deliberately chosen because it is exactly what it was - a "sacrifice". When Judaism teaches that the Jewish people themselves are the Suffering Servant-Messiah, what is happening is the managers of Jewish religious belief are indoctrinating the average Jew to accept the sacrificial loss of Jews as necessary to advance the "Messianic Kingdom of God", by which is actually meant the Euro-Khazarian aristocratic "world order".
I keep running into this same reality, the European royal families trace their lineage not only to the Flavian and other Roman dynasties, but also to Herod and the Idumean (Edomite) royalty.
There are a lot of players on the field, some more important and more influential and powerful than others, but they are all playing the same Game. Meanwhile the average person (including the average Jew, Muslim, and Christian) is none the wiser as to what's actually going on.
But if you study your Bible, you will see the Game for what it is. It's not even their "game", they are like Pharaoh, raised up for a specific Divinely appointed role, that even with all their machinations, plans, and agendas, nevertheless wind up pushing the Plan of God forward. God is literally in control.
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Now that was delicious!
One day you should really write a book.
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09-07-2024, 09:08 AM
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Re: British Israelism
Pentecostalism is a mess:
British Israelism
Christian Zionism
Light doctrine
Roman paganism
Is it any wonder some people might try to restore Apostolic doctrine?
That being said, it's likely no one is perfect or right about everything.
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09-07-2024, 11:35 AM
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Re: British Israelism
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Originally Posted by Amanah
Pentecostalism is a mess:
British Israelism
Christian Zionism
Light doctrine
Roman paganism
Is it any wonder some people might try to restore Apostolic doctrine?
That being said, it's likely no one is perfect or right about everything.
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Amen.
Therefore what we really need to do is listen for the Shepard’s voice.
We need to focus on our devoutness to Jesus. So, our prayers and alms come up before Him.
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