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05-22-2020, 04:01 PM
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Trump Says Places of Worship Are ‘Essential Servic
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-c...d=hp_lead_pos1
I am disappointed that he didn't refer to the constitution saying religious services and rallies are protected.
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05-22-2020, 05:58 PM
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Re: Trump Says Places of Worship Are ‘Essential Se
Trump is pandering to his base. As president, he does not have the legal authority to order states which businesses to open or close.
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05-22-2020, 09:41 PM
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Re: Trump Says Places of Worship Are ‘Essential Se
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As president, he does not have the legal authority to order states which businesses to open or close.
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He doesn't have to use his authority, he can just manipulate the purse strings of the money going to the states. Such as what he recently threatened to do with Michigan.
This is why I've long considered it a terrible idea for the states to be getting funding from the federal government, especially when that funding first comes from the people of the various states. It's nothing more than wealth redistribution.
The government should be taking no more than it needs to operate, not taking and redistributing it to the various states as they see fit.
Regarding states opening businesses, I earnestly believe that any governor/mayor/city council that approved shutting down even a single business over this current situation, should immediately resign or be removed from office for violating their oath of office.
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05-22-2020, 10:41 PM
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Re: Trump Says Places of Worship Are ‘Essential Se
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He doesn't have to use his authority, he can just manipulate the purse strings of the money going to the states. Such as what he recently threatened to do with Michigan.
This is why I've long considered it a terrible idea for the states to be getting funding from the federal government, especially when that funding first comes from the people of the various states. It's nothing more than wealth redistribution.
The government should be taking no more than it needs to operate, not taking and redistributing it to the various states as they see fit.
Regarding states opening businesses, I earnestly believe that any governor/mayor/city council that approved shutting down even a single business over this current situation, should immediately resign or be removed from office for violating their oath of office.
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Agreed. But practically speaking, not gonna happen because most Americans - whether democrat or republican - are basically statists of one form or another. We know this is true because otherwise we would have had a revolution decades ago.
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05-23-2020, 10:15 PM
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Re: Trump Says Places of Worship Are ‘Essential Se
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He doesn't have to use his authority, he can just manipulate the purse strings of the money going to the states. Such as what he recently threatened to do with Michigan.
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That's setting a dangerous precedent. If he can withhold money for them not doing X. Then the next guy could withhold money to your state for doing X.
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This is why I've long considered it a terrible idea for the states to be getting funding from the federal government, especially when that funding first comes from the people of the various states. It's nothing more than wealth redistribution.
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I could agree. Progressives implemented those policies and now want nothing more than to hold that over our heads and use those policies to cudgel everyone else into submission. Because they don't actually have a firm position on anything, except win the argument.
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The government should be taking no more than it needs to operate, not taking and redistributing it to the various states as they see fit.
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Define redistributing. It gets a bit murkier when you get into the nitty gritty details.
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05-24-2020, 11:02 AM
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Re: Trump Says Places of Worship Are ‘Essential Se
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That's setting a dangerous precedent. If he can withhold money for them not doing X. Then the next guy could withhold money to your state for doing X.
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I don’t think it is wrong to do so to states that do not respect the constitution of this country.
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05-24-2020, 11:18 AM
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Re: Trump Says Places of Worship Are ‘Essential Se
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Define redistributing. It gets a bit murkier when you get into the nitty gritty details.
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What do you mean, "define redistributing"? It's pretty straightforward to me. They take from one group (forcibly, no less) and give it to another. I don't understand what you're asking of me.
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Sometimes hidden dangers spring on us suddenly. Those are out of our control. But when one can see the danger, and then refuses to arrest , all in the name of "God is in control", they are forfeiting God given, preventive opportunities.
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05-22-2020, 10:38 PM
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Re: Trump Says Places of Worship Are ‘Essential Se
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Trump is pandering to his base. As president, he does not have the legal authority to order states which businesses to open or close.
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But Obama had authority to require individuals to purchase health insurance.
You lefties are too obvious these days.
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05-23-2020, 08:06 PM
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Re: Trump Says Places of Worship Are ‘Essential Se
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Trump is pandering to his base. As president, he does not have the legal authority to order states which businesses to open or close.
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I’m glad he is pandering to me and 50% of America.
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05-23-2020, 10:09 PM
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Re: Trump Says Places of Worship Are ‘Essential Se
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Trump is pandering to his base. As president, he does not have the legal authority to order states which businesses to open or close.
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I'm no lawyer but for better or worse the interstate commerce law has been used to give the federal government vast power in areas of commerce.
Personally, I think Trump realized that whatever he would do would be spun as making things worse by the MSM and so he backed off issuing more than guidance. Probably was a smart play so close to the election.
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