Charismatic Sweep

[Bro Flame]

My Pastor shared this on our church's Facebook page some time ago. I've often thought about it and I decided to share it here.

The Charismatic movement's effect on traditional Pentecostalism seems to have been generally negative from many perspectives.

From the words of Elder Steve Eply:

I saw the early days of the Charismatic movement as a boy. Initially many were hungry for more of God that was preached and experienced by their denomination. But it didn't take long to realize they were interesting in the blessing but not in the cost. Their movement exploded across the globe. Real experiences were quickly replaced by sensationalism rife with strange doctrines and practices. Huge mega churches blossomed with unconverted people praying in a "prayer language" and bopping to the newest trends in music.

Now in my senior years I reflect we did not convert many of them. They were like the people Jeremiah prophesied about "wild asses in the wind". But their effect on the Pentecostal movement has been devastating. Even the late Bishop Gilbert Patterson of the Church of God in Christ bemoaned the fact the congregants of his movement were not receiving the baptism of the Holy Ghost because there was no change in their lives.

The influence of this delusional movement has forever altered some areas of our movement. Flashing lights, smoke machines, Hillsong-style music, folks dressed like they are going to a picnic instead of church. They are like the folks who spoke half Ashdod and half the language of the Jews.

The doctrine of Balaam is what it is.

Holiness standards are too heavy a burden to bear. Jewelry becomes acceptable, makeup, cut hair, immodest dress. No clear doctrinal distinctions. Hollywood is no big deal. Professional sports is in. Preaching separation is out.

My voice may not be much be I am going to lift it in pleading and defending the old paths.

We are just going to keep on doing doing what we have always done.

Preaching, Prayer, Praise.

Holiness is still in style.

[coksiw]

He put in words what I actually think.

[Bro Flame]

Originally Posted by coksiw

He put in words what I actually think.

It seems to be a fairly common consensus among us in the Apostolic realm.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by Holy Roller

It seems to be a fairly common consensus among us in the Apostolic realm.

We’re in a realm now

[Bro Flame]

Originally Posted by diakonos

We’re in a realm now

Realm, arena, movement, sect.

The Apostolic faith we are.

[diakonos]

This thread has a video of a message by an Assembly.. Assemblies... of God pastor. You may find it interesting.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ght=Clendennen

[Bro Flame]

Originally Posted by diakonos

This thread has a video of a message by an Assembly.. Assemblies... of God pastor. You may find it interesting.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ght=Clendennen

I've had someone else bring this video up to me before, I'm sure. I'm certainly going to listen to it when I have the chance to do so.

Thanks!

[n david]

Originally Posted by diakonos

This thread has a video of a message by an Assembly.. Assemblies... of God pastor. You may find it interesting.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ght=Clendennen

Listening to it now. This was the AoG my mother grew up in as a young girl before attending a UPC church. She tells of when the AoG church she attended believed in the New Birth (necessity not added benefit) and holiness dress standards.

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by n david

Listening to it now. This was the AoG my mother grew up in as a young girl before attending a UPC church. She tells of when the AoG church she attended believed in the New Birth (necessity not added benefit) and holiness dress standards.

There are still some AG that live holiness. A rare find.

[Bro Flame]

Originally Posted by diakonos

There are still some AG that live holiness. A rare find.

Extremely rare in my area, but that might be because the AG isn't terribly prominent around me. What few are around a pretty much Baptist churches that just haven't gotten around to changing their signs.

There are a few holiness churches, however. They're not Oneness, but believe in strict separation, outwardly, from secular entertainment, and all that sort of stuff. Some of them believe in the Holy Ghost, others do not.