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Old 06-04-2019, 07:37 PM
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I Will Aoplogize To Dom

Dom,

On the basis of things you have written and also things others have written about you I have believed you to be a full preterist. One who believes and teaches that Jesus came for the Church in 70ad. That the dead Christians were then raised and the entirety of Matt 24 and the book of Revelation have all been fulfilled at that time.

If this is NOT true, if you are not a full preterist, if these are not your beliefs please tell us WHAT ARE YOUR BELIEFS concerning the coming of Jesus for the Church, the resurrection of the dead and whether you believe we are in the New Heavens and the New Earth right now.

It should not be hard. If I have been wrong and you do not believe these things I will apologize to you.

You said to me:

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translated the church in 70 A.D.? No, I don't believe that, but I told you this, a few times already. But since you are an ecclesiastical religious punk, one needs to tell you again.
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Old 06-04-2019, 07:46 PM
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You can find what he believes in the eschatology section.
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Old 06-04-2019, 07:56 PM
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You can find what he believes in the eschatology section.
I have actually read the long thread on the Preterist community in that section. I can see and understand Mike Blumes position but I never found Doms teaching there.

I am not ashamed of what I believe on the end times. I would have no problem putting it here. No one may accept it but I could put it here. The many times I have asked him to present what he DOES believe he has NOT done so.

If he does NOT believe these things I will apologize to him, here, publicly.

If it is his belief he should not be ashamed to say so.
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Old 06-04-2019, 07:59 PM
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I have actually read the long thread on the Preterist community in that section. I can see and understand Mike Blumes position but I never found Doms teaching there.

I am not ashamed of what I believe on the end times. I would have no problem putting it here. No one may accept it but I could put it here. The many times I have asked him to present what he DOES believe he has NOT done so.

If he does NOT believe these things I will apologize to him, here, publicly.

If it is his belief he should not be ashamed to say so.
Why is it most of us seem to have a pretty good idea of what he believes, but you don't?
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Dom,

On the basis of things you have written and also things others have written about you I have believed you to be a full preterist. One who believes and teaches that Jesus came for the Church in 70ad. That the dead Christians were then raised and the entirety of Matt 24 and the book of Revelation have all been fulfilled at that time.

If this is NOT true, if you are not a full preterist, if these are not your beliefs please tell us WHAT ARE YOUR BELIEFS concerning the coming of Jesus for the Church, the resurrection of the dead and whether you believe we are in the New Heavens and the New Earth right now.

It should not be hard. If I have been wrong and you do not believe these things I will apologize to you.

You said to me:
Maybe he's still studying, but knows he doesn't believe exactly what you articulated.
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Dom,

On the basis of things you have written and also things others have written about you I have believed you to be a full preterist. One who believes and teaches that Jesus came for the Church in 70ad. That the dead Christians were then raised and the entirety of Matt 24 and the book of Revelation have all been fulfilled at that time.

If this is NOT true, if you are not a full preterist, if these are not your beliefs please tell us WHAT ARE YOUR BELIEFS concerning the coming of Jesus for the Church, the resurrection of the dead and whether you believe we are in the New Heavens and the New Earth right now.

It should not be hard. If I have been wrong and you do not believe these things I will apologize to you.

You said to me:
I don't think you understand what full preterism is? Do you think that full preterists believe in an AD70 rapture, just like you believe but in AD70 instead of the future?
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I don't think you understand what full preterism is? Do you think that full preterists believe in an AD70 rapture, just like you believe but in AD70 instead of the future?
Let Dom lay it out. He is the Mayor. He can handle it.
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Let Dom lay it out. He is the Mayor. He can handle it.
This is why you get the responses you get to your questions.

I asked YOU about YOUR UNDERSTANDING and I get something about Mayor Dom?

Fuggeddaboudit.
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Let Dom lay it out. He is the Mayor. He can handle it.
Michael? Are you jealous?
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Old 06-04-2019, 08:18 PM
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Michael? Are you jealous?
No. I just want to know WHAT YOU believe. I have asked you many times and you never do it just like right now.

You can lay it out for me to see without me having to stop every other word and go search the Greek. Or spend post after post arguing over the meaning of one word. Or every time I say something you ask three or four more questions.

Would you simply lay out a brief but concise statement of what you believe?

Or hows this. You always say its in the Eschatology section. Please just link me to it and I will go there.

If I am wrong about you I will apologize.

Why should this be so hard? If you think your position is correct why would you have a problem telling it?
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