Fellowship with Other Church Organizations

[AJ Miller]

I was recently contemplating if it is wise to join another church organization for ministry purposes (I intend on going into full-time apologetics) while being ordained in the UPCI. I thought of this by the logic that I would not only have transorganizational witness and evangelism via conferences/ministry opportunities, but also some doctrinal laxity (I am a historic premillenialist/post-tribulationist). Any input would be interesting on a scenario such as this.

AJM

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by AJ Miller

I was recently contemplating if it is wise to join another church organization for ministry purposes (I intend on going into full-time apologetics) while being ordained in the UPCI. I thought of this by the logic that I would not only have transorganizational witness and evangelism via conferences/ministry opportunities, but also some doctrinal laxity (I am a historic premillenialist/post-tribulationist). Any input would be interesting on a scenario such as this.

AJM

I hope you can find an org that is post trib. I only know of three post trib Apostolic Assemblies.

[AJ Miller]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I hope you can find an org that is post trib. I only know of three post trib Apostolic Assemblies.

Apostolic Assemblies as in three different Apostolic organizations? Or do you mean three Apostolic Assemblies as in three church bodies?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by AJ Miller

Apostolic Assemblies as in three different Apostolic organizations? Or do you mean three Apostolic Assemblies as in three church bodies?

After some reflection I can say with authority....that I am aware of 5 local Churches that are Apostolic and teach the truth of post trib.

[RachelRose]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I hope you can find an org that is post trib. I only know of three post trib Apostolic Assemblies.

No way! Is this model that rare?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by RachelRose

No way! Is this model that rare?

Well since then I have met another one in Lexington KY. The Pastor there told me there are a lot of post trib UPC Churches. He says they have been persuaded to believe in post trib by listening to Brother Irvin Baxter. Having said that he has yet to name any of these Churches.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Well since then I have met another one in Lexington KY. The Pastor there told me there are a lot of post trib UPC Churches. He says they have been persuaded to believe in post trib by listening to Brother Irvin Baxter. Having said that he has yet to name any of these Churches.

In my time in the UPC, I'd say that while there are a lot of pre trib churches with pre trib pastors, there are also quite a few post trib members. Also, EVERY single UPC church I've been a member of except maybe one had a pastor who said they weren't 100% certain either way. Some of them leaned post trib, but didn't want to offend the pretribbers in the congregation.

Among independents, the ones I've known were mostly post trib.

So, there's a lot of post trib believers, although the church leadership tends to be officially pre trib more often than not, for some reason. Post trib usually doesn't garner big crowds paying big tithes. Might be because post tribbers are spending all their money on stockpiling food and other tribulation preps? lol j/k

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by AJ Miller

I was recently contemplating if it is wise to join another church organization for ministry purposes (I intend on going into full-time apologetics) while being ordained in the UPCI. I thought of this by the logic that I would not only have transorganizational witness and evangelism via conferences/ministry opportunities, but also some doctrinal laxity (I am a historic premillenialist/post-tribulationist). Any input would be interesting on a scenario such as this.

AJM

You will find that in the UPC.

[AJ Miller]

Originally Posted by consapente89

You will find that in the UPC.

What type of doctrinal laxity consists within the UPCI? I find the majority of congregations leaning to a pre-trib rapture, nor do I find any other doctrinal laxity of differing views from premillennialism (amillienialism, postmillenialism). Maybe this is also due to my lack of exposure to other UPCI congregations across the country.

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by AJ Miller

What type of doctrinal laxity consists within the UPCI? I find the majority of congregations leaning to a pre-trib rapture, nor do I find any other doctrinal laxity of differing views from premillennialism (amillienialism, postmillenialism). Maybe this is also due to my lack of exposure to other UPCI congregations across the country.

What I mean by that is that the UPCi is generally a lax org on many doctrinal stances when it comes to allowing membership. New Birth, Holiness, Eschatology. There may be some position papers issued and articles written defending some points of view, but generally speaking, it seems like they will tolerate most doctrinal diversions. I don't consider that a positive thing, but it does seem true at least in our area.

We fellowship the more conservative groups in Pentecost and even in those groups, there is some allowance for differences of opinion concerning eschatology. However, Most Apostolics are Premillennial. I've never met any Apostolic preachers that believed post millennial or amillennial. Thank God!