Libs hate Professing Christians

[aegsm76]

Here is where we are today.
You can be a Satanist, Wiccan, Muslim, Jew, anything but Christian and it is ok.
But, you cannot be a professing Christian and work in the government or work for yourself.
Imagine the outrage if a Republican did this to a Muslim nominee.
Watch the video and let me know what you think.
link to article (video is in the article)
https://www.usnews.com/news/national...istian-beliefs
snippets
The Constitution says the U.S. government can't impose religious tests for public office. But scholars say Sen. Bernie Sanders can without consequence apply his own religious rubric in opposing a presidential nominee who believes non-Christians risk going to hell.
Constitutional scholars say Sanders, who said he will vote against Vought, may violate the spirit of the Constitution, but arguably not Article VI, which states: "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Here is where we are today.
You can be a Satanist, Wiccan, Muslim, Jew, anything but Christian and it is ok.

I've never had a problem being a Christian.

But, you cannot be a professing Christian and work in the government or work for yourself.

Work for the government. I have a Bible and a small paperweight cross in a frame on my desk. I've never had a problem.

Imagine the outrage if a Republican did this to a Muslim nominee.

I do agree. Right now, in our social climate there is concern that Muslims are going to be discriminated against or harassed for their faith. I do see the inequality here. However, I would oppose any Muslim or fundamentalist Christian whom I didn't feel was entirely dedicated to performing their duties without partiality.

Watch the video and let me know what you think.
link to article (video is in the article)
https://www.usnews.com/news/national...istian-beliefs
snippets
The Constitution says the U.S. government can't impose religious tests for public office. But scholars say Sen. Bernie Sanders can without consequence apply his own religious rubric in opposing a presidential nominee who believes non-Christians risk going to hell.

Constitutional scholars say Sanders, who said he will vote against Vought, may violate the spirit of the Constitution, but arguably not Article VI, which states: "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

I'm a Berniecrat. I think that Bernie Sanders was the most ethical candidate running for office. I also think his policy vision is more in tune with where we should be headed as a nation. However, you might be surprised with my position on this.

I disagree with Bernie Sander's line of questioning. Every religion has its tenants that speak to its exclusivity in comparison to other religions. The question wasn't in any way related to a policy paper or position. What this nominee wrote was merely a personal religious conviction and a defense of his Christian school's position regarding the centrality of Jesus with regards to salvation. Frankly, it is relevant to the job he was seeking appointment to.

With regards to Sanders, I see something that I think deserves mention. Bernie Sanders is Jewish. I think that he has battled religious prejudice his entire life, especially when running for public office. I'm sure he faced a degree of religious prejudice while running for President recently. So, he might have an axe to grind here and he allowed his own emotions regarding the issue to get the best of him.

I give Bernie Sanders a thumbs down on this one. Boo on Sanders.

In my opinion, something else deserves to be mentioned here. Religious fundamentalism is currently a growing threat throughout the world. It isn't only in Islam, though Islam is obviously demonstrating the greatest threat internationally at the moment. Growing sovereignty movements, militias disguised as patriots clubs are growing throughout the United States. And most have a membership composed of extreme right-wing Christians. There are currently churches that are being noted as possible bastions of extremism. One church that I know of personally is in Kentucky. This church has a virtual arsenal of weapons stored on the property. They have an active "gun club" and "hunting club". While most Christians are rather moderate and even most Christian conservatives and "fundamentalists" have no intention of subversion, the extreme right-wing of the Christian right is casting a long shadow over the rest of us.

I predict that anyone who voices views similar to the more extreme Christian radicals on the fringe are going to come under intense scrutiny. I pray this doesn't cause more Christians to interpret this as open hostility on religion and thereby push more believers into these extremist groups.

The day is coming when Christians who embrace civility and the separation of church and state are going to have to get real vocal about their opposition to radical Christians in this nation. So far, I don't think the growing seriousness of the issue has set in yet. But something tragic will most likely have to happen to get us to realize how serious this is within our ranks. In that hour, it will seem as though all Christians are being targeted. And to an extent, that might be right. However, we will have to take a couple steps back, realize the reality of the situation and side with our local authorities against the extremists. In that hour will have to be as harmless as doves, but wise as serpents.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I've never had a problem being a Christian.



Work for the government. I have a Bible and a small paperweight cross in a frame on my desk. I've never had a problem.

PTSD, Mother in law starving because of Trump's healthcare, now you have a Religious Cathedral built on your desk at your government job? You are the winner of everyone of your stories.

[Amanah]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

PTSD, Mother in law starving because of Trump's healthcare, now you have a Religious Cathedral built on your desk at your government job? You are the winner of everyone of your stories.

Brother Benincasa you are so funny, I think your 2nd calling is Apostolic Comedian.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Brother Benincasa you are so funny, I think your 2nd calling is Apostolic Comedian.

I found nothing better in relaying a thought. No one soon forgets levity, or some nice healthy sarcasm.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

PTSD, Mother in law starving because of Trump's healthcare, now you have a Religious Cathedral built on your desk at your government job? You are the winner of everyone of your stories.

Am I supposed to lie? Here's a snapshot of my computer in my office. You'll notice the little cross in a box thingy just below my monitor.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Bernie Sanders is Jewish. I think that he has battled religious prejudice his entire life, especially when running for public office. I'm sure he faced a degree of religious prejudice while running for President recently. So, he might have an axe to grind here and he allowed his own emotions regarding the issue to get the best of him.

I love how you start off disagreeing with Sanders, then feel the need to turn around and find some completely made up cause with which to vindicate him.

Originally Posted by Aquila

I give Bernie Sanders a thumbs down on this one. Boo on Sanders.

This isn't Siskel & Ebert, give us a direct opinion of the situation.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Growing sovereignty movements, militias disguised as patriots clubs are growing throughout the United States. And most have a membership composed of extreme right-wing Christians.

Yes, because there are so many "right-wing Christians" out shooting or blowing up people every day. Oh, wait......

Originally Posted by Aquila

There are currently churches that are being noted as possible bastions of extremism.

By Demonrats, I presume?

Originally Posted by Aquila

One church that I know of personally is in Kentucky.

How convenient, you have an example primed up and ready.

Originally Posted by Aquila

This church has a virtual arsenal of weapons stored on the property. They have an active "gun club" and "hunting club".

Oh, the horror! How could a hunting club possibly have guns?!?!?!?!?! OH, THE HUMANITY! What possible use could a hunting group have with guns?!

Originally Posted by Aquila

While most Christians are rather moderate and even most Christian conservatives and "fundamentalists" have no intention of subversion, the extreme right-wing of the Christian right is casting a long shadow over the rest of us.

If anyone is casting a "long shadow" over the rest of us, it's people like you who get spooked by the mere mention of a gun.

By the way, I'm currently typing this in church, and I'm packing. Also, not an "extremist"

Originally Posted by Aquila

I predict that anyone who voices views similar to the more extreme Christian radicals on the fringe are going to come under intense scrutiny. I pray this doesn't cause more Christians to interpret this as open hostility on religion and thereby push more believers into these extremist groups.

Oh, dear Lord in Heaven above. No matter how many times you say things like this, it always surprises me just how much you really believe this nonsense.

Originally Posted by Aquila

The day is coming when Christians who embrace...the separation of church and state

Do you even know the origins of that phrase? The intent behind it?

Originally Posted by Aquila

are going to have to get real vocal about their opposition to radical Christians in this nation.

WHAT radical Christians?? Where are they? Unless you count the Westboro idiots, and they're just a bunch of blowhards.

Originally Posted by Aquila

So far, I don't think the growing seriousness of the issue has set in yet. But something tragic will most likely have to happen to get us to realize how serious this is within our ranks.

Exactly what makes you think there even IS a "serious issue"?

Originally Posted by Aquila

In that hour, it will seem as though all Christians are being targeted. And to an extent, that might be right. However, we will have to take a couple steps back, realize the reality of the situation and side with our local authorities against the extremists. In that hour will have to be as harmless as doves, but wise as serpents.

I have one question for you, how do you define "extremist"? Who chooses what is and is not an extremist? You? The government? Are you still operating off the Obama definition (which would include any conservative or right-wing group)? Guess what, Obama isn't president anymore.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Jito463

How convenient, you have an example primed up and ready.

Like I posted, Aquila is the winner of everyone of his stories

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Jito463

I love how you start off disagreeing with Sanders, then feel the need to turn around and find some completely made up cause with which to vindicate him.

Wasn't my intention.

This isn't Siskel & Ebert, give us a direct opinion of the situation.

Sanders was wrong. He shouldn't have even brought it up.

Yes, because there are so many "right-wing Christians" out shooting or blowing up people every day. Oh, wait......

My point is that it is a significant concern among law enforcement and to the DHS.

By Demonrats, I presume?

I don't know their political leanings. However, most that are of concern are rightwing.

How convenient, you have an example primed up and ready.

There are more.

Oh, the horror! How could a hunting club possibly have guns?!?!?!?!?! OH, THE HUMANITY! What possible use could a hunting group have with guns?!

There is nothing wrong with a hunting club. However, using a hunting club as a reason to stock up on high powered rifles and handguns should concern us all.

If anyone is casting a "long shadow" over the rest of us, it's people like you who get spooked by the mere mention of a gun.

Spooked by a gun? I served 8 years Army. Weapons of specialty included the M6A2 and the 9mm Beretta. My first MOS was 19K and my second was what was then classified as 91B10. I have no fear of guns. My concerns are related to unstable idiots with guns.

By the way, I'm currently typing this in church, and I'm packing. Also, not an "extremist"

Nothing wrong with that.

Oh, dear Lord in Heaven above. No matter how many times you say things like this, it always surprises me just how much you really believe this nonsense.

It happens.

Do you even know the origins of that phrase? The intent behind it?

Yes I do.

WHAT radical Christians?? Where are they? Unless you count the Westboro idiots, and they're just a bunch of blowhards.

I will actually agree with you. They are full of rhetoric. The concern is someone will take it too far.

Exactly what makes you think there even IS a "serious issue"?

I can't tell you. I'm sure you can google it. It's SSI.

I have one question for you, how do you define "extremist"? Who chooses what is and is not an extremist? You? The government? Are you still operating off the Obama definition (which would include any conservative or right-wing group)? Guess what, Obama isn't president anymore.

I think there is indeed a problem with how extremism has been defined. I look at it like this. Anything that is a direct threat to the United States government, the Constitution, and our way of life should be classified as extremist.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Anything that is a direct threat to the United States government, the Constitution, and our way of life should be classified as extremist.

So basically, most of the Left. Gotcha.