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04-18-2016, 07:51 AM
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Co.lawmakers were Cruz supporters
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04-18-2016, 08:22 AM
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The vast establishment conspiracy!
Again, this was done back in August, when the field was huge and no one knew if Cruz would even be in the race by now.
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04-18-2016, 08:28 AM
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Re: Co.lawmakers were Cruz supporters
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The vast establishment conspiracy!
Again, this was done back in August, when the field was huge and no one knew if Cruz would even be in the race by now.
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Nevertheless.
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04-18-2016, 09:09 AM
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Nevertheless, it's something Trump and his supporters want to use to distract people from the issues.
Yesterday marked the second weekend straight in which Trump didn't do any interviews on the weekend shows. He's also continuing to run from debates with Cruz. There has not been a debate since Rubio dropped out. Remember when Trump claimed he wanted Cruz mano el mano. Well, he's had the opportunity for weeks and has run from it.
The reason is he is terrible with actual facts and specifics. He distracts his supporters by whining about the vast establishment conspiracy against him. But he knows he couldn't do that in a debate vs Cruz.
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04-18-2016, 09:19 AM
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Re: Co.lawmakers were Cruz supporters
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Nevertheless, it's something Trump and his supporters want to use to distract people from the issues.
Yesterday marked the second weekend straight in which Trump didn't do any interviews on the weekend shows. He's also continuing to run from debates with Cruz. There has not been a debate since Rubio dropped out. Remember when Trump claimed he wanted Cruz mano el mano. Well, he's had the opportunity for weeks and has run from it.
The reason is he is terrible with actual facts and specifics. He distracts his supporters by whining about the vast establishment conspiracy against him. But he knows he couldn't do that in a debate vs Cruz.
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Nevertheless, Colorado did what they did last year with Trump in mind. Even if Trump is everything you say he is, his PLATFORM is what the establishment hates about him, and the fact that so many Americans back such a platform (fair trade, closed borders, immigration laws enforced, no more policing the world). Trump may not be the man in your opinion to implement such a platform. Fine. But the GOP will fight whoever tries to bring about these things no matter what kind of personality the candidate may have or how long he has been a Republican.
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04-18-2016, 10:34 AM
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Re: Co.lawmakers were Cruz supporters
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Nevertheless, Colorado did what they did last year with Trump in mind. Even if Trump is everything you say he is, his PLATFORM is what the establishment hates about him, and the fact that so many Americans back such a platform (fair trade, closed borders, immigration laws enforced, no more policing the world). Trump may not be the man in your opinion to implement such a platform. Fine. But the GOP will fight whoever tries to bring about these things no matter what kind of personality the candidate may have or how long he has been a Republican.
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Donald Trump doesn't really have an honest platform. He spouts all the things he says he is going to do, but never gets into detail. One indication that he has no intention of following through is on immigration.
The NYT is sitting on an off-record tape that indicates Donald Trump has no intention of following through on his immigration promises. Donald won't release the tape, but you can be sure that if he becomes the nominee it will be leaked. This is indicative of all the issues he says he is for. I believe he is running a 3rd party campaign inside the GOP.
Being that his top aide and his own children didn't bother to register as Republicans to vote for their father tomorrow in NY indicates something deeper going on. Ivanka isn't a dumb woman. She put out several instructional videos encouraging people to switch parties to vote for Trump in the "Open" primaries. She knew she also had that responsibility, but didn't follow through.
Another troubling aspect is this train you are on about disfranchising the voters when the rule have been in place. Every campaign had the responsibility to know the rules and apply them to their campaign - Colorado is no different. Yet, his new Convention manager, with a shady lobbying past, is saying that it's rigged because Trump does well in "OPEN" primaries and caucuses. What he is really saying is that in a "CLOSED" primary or caucus only true Republicans vote and Trump doesn't do well there.
I don't believe Trump is a serious candidate and would never take my chances with him.
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04-18-2016, 12:27 PM
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Re: Co.lawmakers were Cruz supporters
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Donald Trump doesn't really have an honest platform. He spouts all the things he says he is going to do, but never gets into detail. One indication that he has no intention of following through is on immigration.
The NYT is sitting on an off-record tape that indicates Donald Trump has no intention of following through on his immigration promises. Donald won't release the tape, but you can be sure that if he becomes the nominee it will be leaked. This is indicative of all the issues he says he is for. I believe he is running a 3rd party campaign inside the GOP.
Being that his top aide and his own children didn't bother to register as Republicans to vote for their father tomorrow in NY indicates something deeper going on. Ivanka isn't a dumb woman. She put out several instructional videos encouraging people to switch parties to vote for Trump in the "Open" primaries. She knew she also had that responsibility, but didn't follow through.
Another troubling aspect is this train you are on about disfranchising the voters when the rule have been in place. Every campaign had the responsibility to know the rules and apply them to their campaign - Colorado is no different. Yet, his new Convention manager, with a shady lobbying past, is saying that it's rigged because Trump does well in "OPEN" primaries and caucuses. What he is really saying is that in a "CLOSED" primary or caucus only true Republicans vote and Trump doesn't do well there.
I don't believe Trump is a serious candidate and would never take my chances with him.
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You seem to have a problem commenting on a single point without going into a whole epistle on why Trump is flawed..blah blah blah.
The point is, in spite of how little meat might be on the bones of his platform in the form of details, the points of his platform terrify the establishment. Unlike you, they actually believe Trump will implement most of the platform if elected. That fact that half of Republicans back him without hearing all the details also scares them. You are too much like Spock. You'll have to stop analyzing everything with Vulcan logic and think like a human. Trump voters go by their gut, something Vulcans don't do, and their gut tells them Trump will perform if elected.
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04-18-2016, 12:45 PM
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Re: Co.lawmakers were Cruz supporters
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You seem to have a problem commenting on a single point without going into a whole epistle on why Trump is flawed..blah blah blah.
The point is, in spite of how little meat might be on the bones of his platform in the form of details, the points of his platform terrify the establishment. Unlike you, they actually believe Trump will implement most of the platform if elected. That fact that half of Republicans back him without hearing all the details also scares them. You are too much like Spock. You'll have to stop analyzing everything with Vulcan logic and think like a human. Trump voters go by their gut, something Vulcans don't do, and their gut tells them Trump will perform if elected.
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No, that isn't the point. They see him as divisive and readily able to change his views with a liberal bent. Donald is not a Conservative - that is the point. Another point I would like to make is that it shows, even though the GOP is mainly made up of Rhinos, they don't want to go as far as the Democratic Party.
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04-18-2016, 11:16 AM
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Re: Co.lawmakers were Cruz supporters
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Nevertheless, Colorado did what they did last year with Trump in mind. Even if Trump is everything you say he is, his PLATFORM is what the establishment hates about him, and the fact that so many Americans back such a platform (fair trade, closed borders, immigration laws enforced, no more policing the world). Trump may not be the man in your opinion to implement such a platform. Fine. But the GOP will fight whoever tries to bring about these things no matter what kind of personality the candidate may have or how long he has been a Republican.
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BTW, did you forget that one week before the CO Convention, Corey Lewandowki fired Trump's state director. They had no organization.
His new shady lobbyist guy, Paul Manafort tells Chuck Todd, "I acknowledge that we weren’t playing in Colorado and they did."
So, was there cheating or were they unorganized? They don't seem to stick to the same story on anything. Bad campaign.
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04-18-2016, 09:33 AM
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Nevertheless, Colorado did what they did last year with Trump in mind.
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That is true, they did say that.
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