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04-16-2016, 09:38 PM
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This is what happens when Trump ignores the grassroots delegate process. Rules are rules. This isn't a democracy, it's a republic. This is how the process has worked for years, and only because Trump hasn't wrapped up the nomination is the process being heavily scrutinized.
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04-16-2016, 09:55 PM
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Re: Georgia district rejects will of voters
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This is what happens when Trump ignores the grassroots delegate process. Rules are rules. This isn't a democracy, it's a republic. This is how the process has worked for years, and only because Trump hasn't wrapped up the nomination is the process being heavily scrutinized.
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This really has nothing to do with whether we are a republic or a democracy. This is a private, political party in action. Like I've already said, if Jeb was where Trump is now, the establishment would be fighting tooth and nail to keep any of this from happening. The rules would not matter in such a case. They are drooling over the rules now because an insurgent is winning and winning big. They are indeed telling the voters, "Ha ha. You're not cooperating this time. If you had rubber stamped everything as before, we would not be going against you." Yes, they can do this, but it will cost them greatly. But as Rush has already said, they don't care if they lose the election.
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04-17-2016, 05:55 PM
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Re: Georgia district rejects will of voters
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This really has nothing to do with whether we are a republic or a democracy. This is a private, political party in action. Like I've already said, if Jeb was where Trump is now, the establishment would be fighting tooth and nail to keep any of this from happening. The rules would not matter in such a case. They are drooling over the rules now because an insurgent is winning and winning big. They are indeed telling the voters, "Ha ha. You're not cooperating this time. If you had rubber stamped everything as before, we would not be going against you." Yes, they can do this, but it will cost them greatly. But as Rush has already said, they don't care if they lose the election.
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04-17-2016, 10:35 PM
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Re: Georgia district rejects will of voters
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Originally Posted by Originalist
This really has nothing to do with whether we are a republic or a democracy. This is a private, political party in action. Like I've already said, if Jeb was where Trump is now, the establishment would be fighting tooth and nail to keep any of this from happening. The rules would not matter in such a case. They are drooling over the rules now because an insurgent is winning and winning big. They are indeed telling the voters, "Ha ha. You're not cooperating this time. If you had rubber stamped everything as before, we would not be going against you." Yes, they can do this, but it will cost them greatly. But as Rush has already said, they don't care if they lose the election.
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“Rule 40(b): Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of eight (8) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination. Notwithstanding any other provisions of these rules or any rule of the House of Representatives, to demonstrate the support required of this paragraph a certificate evidencing the affirmative written support of the required number of permanently seated delegates from each of the eight (8) or more states shall have been submitted to the secretary of the convention not later than one (1) hour prior to the placing of the names of candidates for nomination pursuant to this rule and the established order of business.
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If the rule stays in place and is followed to the letter, Donald won't be on the first ballot either. Guess who will be the only eligible candidate? Ted Cruz.
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04-18-2016, 05:37 AM
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Re: Georgia district rejects will of voters
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If the rule stays in place and is followed to the letter, Donald won't be on the first ballot either. Guess who will be the only eligible candidate? Ted Cruz.
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Go for it. Cruz did not earn those delegates if they are awarded against the overwhelming will of the voters. He will lose to Hillary by a landslide if he is actually allowed to get the nomination in the end. The establishment does not care if they lose to Hillary. Again, if Bush was where Trump is now in primary victories and had 45% of the vote, the GOP would be telling Cruz "the heck with the rules". This is why Cruz supporters are so delusional. They actually believe Cruz is doing something good.
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04-18-2016, 12:41 PM
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Re: Georgia district rejects will of voters
If Donald does not win the nomination then simple, he will go third party, hillary wins.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm havent I been saying that for a while?
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04-19-2016, 07:35 PM
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Re: Georgia district rejects will of voters
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If Donald does not win the nomination then simple, he will go third party, hillary wins.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm havent I been saying that for a while?
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If Cruz would have led in the polls and delegate count then trump would not run 3rd party.
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04-19-2016, 07:43 PM
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I doubt Trump will run 3rd party. He can't win running 3rd party and won't spend time, money and resources to lose. His ego won't allow it either.
I believe the establishment knows he won't. Trump knows he won't. Only his Trumpsters are holding out hope he sticks it to the establishment.
But it's like his threats on immigration and trade tariffs....it's all a bluff. A bargaining chip he hopes party leaders will fall for and make a deal.
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04-19-2016, 07:52 PM
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Re: Georgia district rejects will of voters
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I doubt Trump will run 3rd party. He can't win running 3rd party and won't spend time, money and resources to lose. His ego won't allow it either.
I believe the establishment knows he won't. Trump knows he won't. Only his Trumpsters are holding out hope he sticks it to the establishment.
But it's like his threats on immigration and trade tariffs....it's all a bluff. A bargaining chip he hopes party leaders will fall for and make a deal.
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The only one who would make a deal with the party on immigration and trade is your boy.
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