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06-11-2007, 03:32 PM
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Growth Stats
Does anyone know of or have access to any growth statistics for the UPCI over the last 10 years?
I think Pastor Poster gave some stats on churches that have left the fellowship a few days ago.
Just wondering. 
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06-11-2007, 03:52 PM
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We've added around 800 ministers and 200 churches. This includes some daughter works and preaching points.
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06-11-2007, 03:56 PM
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We've added around 800 ministers and 200 churches. This includes some daughter works and preaching points.
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thankyou PP. This is over the last ten years right?
And is this the number minus the ones you mentioned the other day that have left?
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06-11-2007, 04:07 PM
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thankyou PP. This is over the last ten years right?
And is this the number minus the ones you mentioned the other day that have left?
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That is an estimate. The churches added may be a teeny bit high.
This is net growth.
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06-11-2007, 05:11 PM
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We've added around 800 ministers and 200 churches. This includes some daughter works and preaching points.
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PeePee,
Is that a net gain or a gross gain without those leaving taken into consideration?
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06-11-2007, 09:25 PM
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PeePee,
Is that a net gain or a gross gain without those leaving taken into consideration?
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I think that would be net, but I doubt it projects proportionately to the general membership growth.
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06-11-2007, 10:00 PM
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PeePee,
Is that a net gain or a gross gain without those leaving taken into consideration?
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Net gain.
Lets do the math. Thats 80 ministers and 20 churches per year.
That is very sluggish growth.
That means that 30 states per year have not even added one church.
That's not quite two new ministers per state per year.
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06-11-2007, 10:55 PM
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Last year the WV District began a campaign to put churches in each county of the state. They had 18 counties with no upci churches. I beleive at last count there are 11 counties that still do not have a upci presence. (They may be better for it.) Instead of adding upci affiliated churches within 10-15 minutes of each other, they should have focused on these areas. The churches are too busy competing with each other for recycled sheep to reach the lost.
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Net gain.
Lets do the math. Thats 80 ministers and 20 churches per year.
That is very sluggish growth.
That means that 30 states per year have not even added one church.
That's not quite two new ministers per state per year.
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06-11-2007, 10:56 PM
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CEO's have been fired with better results.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Net gain.
Lets do the math. Thats 80 ministers and 20 churches per year.
That is very sluggish growth.
That means that 30 states per year have not even added one church.
That's not quite two new ministers per state per year.
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06-11-2007, 10:58 PM
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CEO's have been fired with better results.
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Well, we need to consider the amount of church plants that fail (no knowledge)and the amount of churches that leave per year (around 25-30).
Lots of inward and outward movement.
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