Ginsburg Was Right

[Jermyn Davidson]

The article linked shows just what is happening in Texas as a result of their new voter laws. Read the article. None of those things should be happening!

It is obviously so skewed... "college identification cards are not valid but a hunting license is valid identification for voting purposes."

What about the elderly? Their driver licenses are not valid if they are more than 60 days expired.

The Texas law is burdensome, skewed and appears to be targetted to suppress the votes of demographics that would normally vote for Democrats.


"Voting experts say that people willing to speak out about voting troubles make up only a small percentage of the total number of Texans being disenfranchised. The majority may simply give up and go home. As Ginsburg predicted, the law “risks denying the right to vote to hundreds of thousands.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...usaolp00000592

[n david]

[DaveC519]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

What about the elderly? Their driver licenses are not valid if they are more than 60 days expired.

Guess what else happens in TX when your driver's license is more than 60 days expired and you get pulled over? You go to jail for driving with an expired driver's license!

Oh the humanity!

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

The article linked shows just what is happening in Texas as a result of their new voter laws. Read the article. None of those things should be happening!

It is obviously so skewed... "college identification cards are not valid but a hunting license is valid identification for voting purposes."

What about the elderly? Their driver licenses are not valid if they are more than 60 days expired.

The Texas law is burdensome, skewed and appears to be targetted to suppress the votes of demographics that would normally vote for Democrats.


"Voting experts say that people willing to speak out about voting troubles make up only a small percentage of the total number of Texans being disenfranchised. The majority may simply give up and go home. As Ginsburg predicted, the law “risks denying the right to vote to hundreds of thousands.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...usaolp00000592

Can one obtain a passport or cash a check with an expired license?

[nahkoe]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Can one obtain a passport or cash a check with an expired license?

Can't even buy cigarettes with an expired license.....

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

The article linked shows just what is happening in Texas as a result of their new voter laws. Read the article. None of those things should be happening!

It is obviously so skewed... "college identification cards are not valid but a hunting license is valid identification for voting purposes."

What about the elderly? Their driver licenses are not valid if they are more than 60 days expired.

The Texas law is burdensome, skewed and appears to be targetted to suppress the votes of demographics that would normally vote for Democrats.


"Voting experts say that people willing to speak out about voting troubles make up only a small percentage of the total number of Texans being disenfranchised. The majority may simply give up and go home. As Ginsburg predicted, the law “risks denying the right to vote to hundreds of thousands.""

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...usaolp00000592

Documents and ID's that cost money should not be required to vote period. The moment there is a cost involved it is wrong.

Now that said I'm all for requiring valid ID in order to vote but there needs to be at least 1 form of ID that can be presented that doesn't have a cost associated with it or the documents required to get it. Once that is managed you'll even have democrats on board with requiring ID to vote.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Documents and ID's that cost money should not be required to vote period. The moment there is a cost involved it is wrong.

Now that said I'm all for requiring valid ID in order to vote but there needs to be at least 1 form of ID that can be presented that doesn't have a cost associated with it or the documents required to get it. Once that is managed you'll even have democrats on board with requiring ID to vote.

We could go to voter ID cards with a photo ID like other countries already have.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Originalist

We could go to voter ID cards with a photo ID like other countries already have.

I'll second that as long as those cards are free and as long as the documents needed to obtain those cards are free. I'm sure we can all agree that any additional cost is more prohibitive to the really poor and fixed income people (which statistically speaking are typically more likely to vote democrat).

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by jfrog

I'll second that as long as those cards are free and as long as the documents needed to obtain those cards are free. I'm sure we can all agree that any additional cost is more prohibitive to the really poor and fixed income people (which statistically speaking are typically more likely to vote democrat).

Are you against someone who is registering to vote having to present a birth certificate as proof of identity even if it means they have to pay $15 to obtain a copy?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Are you against someone who is registering to vote having to present a birth certificate as proof of identity even if it means they have to pay $15 to obtain a copy?

Yes. Take the cost away. 15 dollars to a poor man may be everything he has or worse, more than he can afford. 15 dollars to a more wealthy man means he eats fast food instead of at the fancy steakhouse 1 night. I'm sure you can find a solution that does away with the 15 dollar cost while preserving the requirement of presenting a birth certificate. I'm sure it won't be that hard to find some solution for this

By the way, it's basically a poll tax if you require money or documents that cost money or anything that costs money to be able to vote. I disagree with poll taxes don't you?