John Kerry Didnt Say Anything Wrong

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Read what he said. Tell me he is wrong. Look up the word apartheid. Tell me he is wrong.

"If there’s no two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict soon, Israel risks becoming “an apartheid state,”"

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

Read what he said. Tell me he is wrong. Look up the word apartheid. Tell me he is wrong.

Kerry essentially has taken the same view as Carter, i.e., that the Arab birthrate will exceed Israel's birthrate leaving the Arabs as the majority.

The problem is that even if that analysis were true, which it doesn't appear to be, it doesn't have anything to do with the peace negotiations or the status of territories that are being administered by Israel.

Uri Sadot debunks the "demographic" idea:

Israel's Demographic Time Bomb is a Dud
Sorry, but the real number of Arab Israelis isn't an existential threat to the Jewish state.

The numbers just don’t add up. Demography relies on more than just birth rates, and similar predictions have a long history of falling flat. Israeli Jews have a healthy and largely stable demographic majority in Israel and the West Bank, and developments in the coming years may even enhance this trend. The demographic time bomb, in other words, is a dud.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...state_solution

[Monterrey]

It is to the point that if anything that is said can be construed as anti-semitic that they go ape-crazy!

Furthermore the political right goes crazy because they view anything against Israel as anti-american.

I don't think he said anything wrong myself, but then again, I view the Church as the Israel of God.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

It is to the point that if anything that is said can be construed as anti-semitic that they go ape-crazy!

Furthermore the political right goes crazy because they view anything against Israel as anti-american.

I don't think he said anything wrong myself, but then again, I view the Church as the Israel of God.

Preach brother preach. Along those lines, do you have to support Israel no matter what? I see no difference in what Israel does and the actions of Hamas and Al Queda. Its very hard for me to believe GOD is for that.

[Pressing-On]

Okay, let's see. We have Israel who is our largest democratic ally in the Middle East and you guys are okay that the PLO and Hamas will temporary set aside their long standing differences in order to broker a deal against Israel so that later they can blame their society ridden with poverty on Israel?

Did I get that right? I think I did.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Okay, let's see. We have Israel who is our largest democratic ally in the Middle East and you guys are okay that the PLO and Hamas will temporary set aside their long standing differences in order to broker a deal against Israel so that later they can blame their society ridden with poverty on Israel?

Did I get that right? I think I did.

Im sure none of their poverty has anything to do with the massive land grab that Israel has been a part of since their inception.

[Pressing-On]

Israel should have no dialogue with the Palestinians until weapons stop getting smuggled through Gaza. Iran who wants to annilhilate Israel is one of the weapons providers to Hamas. Israel has done a great job of continuing to destroy the tunnels, and Netanyahu is right - “Either Hamas disavows the destruction of Israel and embraces peace and denounces terror or President Abbas renounces Hamas. If one of those things happened, we could get back to the peace negotiations. I hope that he renounces Hamas and I that hope he gets back to the peace table, as I’ve just said. The ball is in his court. It’s his decision.”

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

Im sure none of their poverty has anything to do with the massive land grab that Israel has been a part of since their inception.

The Palestinian people will NEVER be a democratic ally to America - the point.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

Im sure none of their poverty has anything to do with the massive land grab that Israel has been a part of since their inception.

If you go back far enough, Muslims took the land first from someone else. When Israel did their "Land grab" there was no "Palestine" as we know it today and Palestinians are really just Arabs spread out from the Muslim land grab years ago.

Israel took the land during war and kept it as a buffer against future attacks.

Everything is not always as cut and dry as just saying Israel did a massive land grab.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

Read what he said. Tell me he is wrong. Look up the word apartheid. Tell me he is wrong.

Slipper slope. That's like me saying "If you don't believe X you risk becoming a homosexual".

It's just inflammatory rhetoric from Kerry. He isn't helping the process by doing that