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Old 09-13-2013, 07:09 PM
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The Christians Slide Into Delusion

Ever wonder why so many Christians are deluded? Why they do not seem like Jesus? How can this be? James explains it to us.

But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. James 1:22

Yes the Apostle tells us the truth modern Christians don't want to hear. DISOBEDIENCE to the teaching of Jesus brings deception and delusion to the soul.

The average Church member today has been fed a constant diet of God gives us plenty of time to work through all our issues. He continues showing mercy and kindness no matter..........

And yet the Holy Ghost through the Apostles told us theres more to the story.

The Christian who commits sin becomes more and more deceived. Holiness becomes something they can laugh and joke about. The things that are wicked and disgusting to the pure and holy Christ become more and more part of the deceived Christians conversation and life.

Little do they realize every time they sin they give satan another piece of their heart!

Be ye angry , and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: 27 Neither give place to the devil. 28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour , working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth . 29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers . 30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: Eph. 4:26-31

Every sin the Christian does he gets more deceived! THEY ARE GIVING PLACE TO THE DEVIL!

After a while the person does not seem like Christ. They seem like satan! They have given place to him. It used to be said they gave the devil an open door.

When one gives PLACE TO THE DEVIL what does he do?

HE TAKES IT!

And now you know how Christians can become demon possessed.
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Old 09-13-2013, 08:35 PM
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And now you know how Christians can become demon possessed.
Are you saying that a person can be filled with the Holy Ghost and be demon possessed at the same time? Could you define what you mean by Christian?
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Old 09-13-2013, 09:12 PM
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Are you saying that a person can be filled with the Holy Ghost and be demon possessed at the same time? Could you define what you mean by Christian?
I said "The Christians slide into delusion". One can be a spirit filled Christian and by their lack of obedience to Jesus wind up in delusion, deceiving themselves and giving place to the devil.

The devil will take all the space you give him. A person who is spirit filled can become dry. If they were spirit filled they would rejoice to do the will of God. The devil has no place in them.

Each act of disobedience otherwise known as "sin" is an open door for the enemy. If one drys up and withers away in his walk THEN he can be possessed by the devil.
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I said "The Christians slide into delusion". One can be a spirit filled Christian and by their lack of obedience to Jesus wind up in delusion, deceiving themselves and giving place to the devil.

The devil will take all the space you give him. A person who is spirit filled can become dry. If they were spirit filled they would rejoice to do the will of God. The devil has no place in them.

Each act of disobedience otherwise known as "sin" is an open door for the enemy. If one drys up and withers away in his walk THEN he can be possessed by the devil.
So when they wind up in delusion after much disobedience they lost the Holy Ghost?
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So when they wind up in delusion after much disobedience they lost the Holy Ghost?
Yes he cuts them off.
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Yes he cuts them off.
They are reprobate, and no longer able to get back to God?

They no longer have repentance, seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame? Is this what you are saying?
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Yes he cuts them off.
In your opinion, are they 'unredeemed' at that time?
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Michael, what do you mean by" Sin is not the slight little comfortable thing" also what sin are the Pentecostals commiting.As I see it the Pentecostals set themselves for failure, heck they got so many rules you cannot do, it makes going to the store grocery shopping a sin, cause you are going to do something in the store that is preached against...lol

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Old 09-14-2013, 08:58 AM
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"The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead." [Proverbs 21:16, KJV]

"For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame." [Hebrews 6:4-6, KJV]

Simply interpreted (IMHO): That man, after having "tasted" (i.e., become a recipient of knowledge concerning the Oneness of God and being baptized with the Spirit, having their sins remitted by immersion in the waters of baptism "in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ"), who willingly turns his back upon such wondrous esoteric truths, will be eternally damned. Why? Because "this" particular sin is likened to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, for which there is NO forgiveness! [See Matthew 12:31, KJV]

Yes, it is possible for a saint to commit sin (and many do, both willingly and unwittingly: myself included), yet be restored to a place of right standing before God through repentance.

The two scriptural passages noted, perhaps above all others, serve to motivate me to be willing to embrace and defend the apostles' doctrine (for it is truth), even unto death, should necessity dictate it.
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"The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation of the dead." [Proverbs 21:16, KJV]

"For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame." [Hebrews 6:4-6, KJV]

Simply interpreted (IMHO): That man, after having "tasted" (i.e., become a recipient of knowledge concerning the Oneness of God and being baptized with the Spirit, having their sins remitted by immersion in the waters of baptism "in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ"), who willingly turns his back upon such wondrous esoteric truths, will be eternally damned. Why? Because "this" particular sin is likened to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, for which there is NO forgiveness! [See Matthew 12:31, KJV]

Yes, it is possible for a saint to commit sin (and many do, both willingly and unwittingly: myself included), yet be restored to a place of right standing before God through repentance.

The two scriptural passages noted, perhaps above all others, serve to motivate me to be willing to embrace and defend the apostles' doctrine (for it is truth), even unto death, should necessity dictate it.
Thanks for expressing your opinion too!

So that I make sure I understand you, those who were Apostolic, but decided to no longer be Apostolic, are guilty of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?

Does this designation apply to the former Apostolics who decide to become Trinitarians as well?

I don't understand exactly your logic, but that's why I'm asking.
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